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::::::Well, she is obviously right-wing, but if my edit is going against wikipedia rules, remove it, do what you have to do. I saw she's right-wing in sources, but I forgot where or I might be thinking of something else. I'm too lazy to look through all the sources that might take an hour so do what you have to do [[User:HumansRightsIsCool|HumansRightsIsCool]] ([[User talk:HumansRightsIsCool|talk]]) 16:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
::::::Well, she is obviously right-wing, but if my edit is going against wikipedia rules, remove it, do what you have to do. I saw she's right-wing in sources, but I forgot where or I might be thinking of something else. I'm too lazy to look through all the sources that might take an hour so do what you have to do [[User:HumansRightsIsCool|HumansRightsIsCool]] ([[User talk:HumansRightsIsCool|talk]]) 16:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::here I'll remove it for you lol [[User:HumansRightsIsCool|HumansRightsIsCool]] ([[User talk:HumansRightsIsCool|talk]]) 16:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
:::::::here I'll remove it for you lol [[User:HumansRightsIsCool|HumansRightsIsCool]] ([[User talk:HumansRightsIsCool|talk]]) 16:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::::As an FYI, because I see you're new here, and you've already added content [[User_talk:HumansRightsIsCool#May_2024|previously]] without including a source: if you search for – "Maram Susli" "right wing" – in a search engine it shouldn't take you an hour to find any reliable sources. It'd also be worth cross-referencing with [[WP:RSP]] (or use the noticeboard search function) to check the reliability of sources, as many (if not most via news sources) aren't considered reliable. At a glance there aren't any sources I saw for this description though. You might otherwise be right that she is right-wing, but Wikipedia isn't based on what's [[WP:TRUTH|true]] and "[[WP:OR|obvious]]", it's based on what's [[WP:RS|reliability sourced]] and [[WP:V|verifiable]]. [[User:CommunityNotesContributor|CNC]] ([[User talk:CommunityNotesContributor|talk]]) 22:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Name in Arabic
Article currently gives her name in Arabic. Where is this sourced from? We don't normally give Australians' names in Arabic unless they also use that language; is there evidence she does? BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
- She's from Syria and her first language was Arabic and she grew up Muslim HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 22:16, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- https://youtu.be/8LROivbJsuU?si=N3x7OL7XBtii8X4M literally video where she speaks Arabic HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 22:33, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
Right-wing
@HumansRightsIsCool: Which source are you referring to which calls her far right? Do you mean this one? — Czello (music) 21:29, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah plus she's praised neo-nazis like Nick Fuentes, in this article it says she was interviewed by a Nazi and she's friends with another right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and has appeared on Infowars multiple times for over a decade. Other sources call her right-wing and I think she even said she has way more right-wing beliefs than left-wing. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:34, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- this article also suggests she might be anti-semitic and might actually be far-right HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- A lot of what you've just said is WP:OR. Onto the sources themselves – this one is an opinion piece and doesn't actually call her right-wing. Do you have other sources that use that description? — Czello (music) 21:36, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- yeah I saw other sources that call her right wing but I forgot where they're located in this article. I'll look right now HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- According to an article on Facts Buddy, Susli has contributed to various media outlets and has been involved with far-right and neo-Nazi podcasts and networks. I asked an ai chat bot for an article that describes her as right-wing because I'm way to lazy to go through all the sources, I knows a few sources in this article call her right-wing, but I forgot where. Also the 5th source I mentioned earlier that you linked, they use maram susli as an example for a right-wing conspiracy theorists, I think that's good enough. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay but if you can't actually find these sources it'll have to be removed as this is a BLP. Also the 5th source doesn't actually call her far-right/right-wing, but it says her post was made to a far-right forum. As it's an opinion piece that's not really enough. — Czello (music) 07:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, she is obviously right-wing, but if my edit is going against wikipedia rules, remove it, do what you have to do. I saw she's right-wing in sources, but I forgot where or I might be thinking of something else. I'm too lazy to look through all the sources that might take an hour so do what you have to do HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- here I'll remove it for you lol HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 16:06, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- As an FYI, because I see you're new here, and you've already added content previously without including a source: if you search for – "Maram Susli" "right wing" – in a search engine it shouldn't take you an hour to find any reliable sources. It'd also be worth cross-referencing with WP:RSP (or use the noticeboard search function) to check the reliability of sources, as many (if not most via news sources) aren't considered reliable. At a glance there aren't any sources I saw for this description though. You might otherwise be right that she is right-wing, but Wikipedia isn't based on what's true and "obvious", it's based on what's reliability sourced and verifiable. CNC (talk) 22:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well, she is obviously right-wing, but if my edit is going against wikipedia rules, remove it, do what you have to do. I saw she's right-wing in sources, but I forgot where or I might be thinking of something else. I'm too lazy to look through all the sources that might take an hour so do what you have to do HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 16:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- Okay but if you can't actually find these sources it'll have to be removed as this is a BLP. Also the 5th source doesn't actually call her far-right/right-wing, but it says her post was made to a far-right forum. As it's an opinion piece that's not really enough. — Czello (music) 07:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)
- According to an article on Facts Buddy, Susli has contributed to various media outlets and has been involved with far-right and neo-Nazi podcasts and networks. I asked an ai chat bot for an article that describes her as right-wing because I'm way to lazy to go through all the sources, I knows a few sources in this article call her right-wing, but I forgot where. Also the 5th source I mentioned earlier that you linked, they use maram susli as an example for a right-wing conspiracy theorists, I think that's good enough. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 22:11, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
- yeah I saw other sources that call her right wing but I forgot where they're located in this article. I'll look right now HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2024 (UTC)