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::Have you tried the map in my revision? There's no red dot, there's an actual outline of the palace, and it stays when you click to expand it. I guess there's some magic going on where it's pulling from WikiData or something. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 18:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
::Have you tried the map in my revision? There's no red dot, there's an actual outline of the palace, and it stays when you click to expand it. I guess there's some magic going on where it's pulling from WikiData or something. — [[User:W.andrea|W.andrea]] ([[User talk:W.andrea|talk]]) 18:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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:::For enough, I hadn't seen that style of map before. [[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] ([[User talk:Firebrace|talk]]) 20:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
:::For enough, I hadn't seen that style of map before. [[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] ([[User talk:Firebrace|talk]]) 20:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC) |
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@[[User:Firebrace|Firebrace]] Is it possible use a picture that just showed the iconic facade, instead of aeriel view of the palace? (we can still put the picture somewhere in the article to showcase the palace). |
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The rationale for this is because all other Palace thumbnail images only featured the famous main facade. |
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[[Kensington Palace]], [[Hofburg|Hofburg Palace]], [[Hampton Court Palace|Hampton Court]], [[Palace of Versailles|Versailles]], [[Windsor Castle]], [[Royal Palace of Caserta]], [[Royal Palace of Madrid]], [[Royal Palace of Amsterdam]] |
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Security breaches
See Talk:Buckingham Palace/Archive 3#Security breach: "In the long history of the palace these incidents are fairly trivial". Celia Homeford (talk) 15:27, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
- It's also misleading to say Lawlor entered the palace or that staff 'allowed' him to enter. They didn't let him in and he doesn't appear to have entered the building. DrKay (talk) 07:30, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
Infobox -- why not?
(regarding my reverted edit that added an infobox)
@Nikkimaria, the talk archives have a lot of discussion about infoboxes; could you give a quick summary or point to a particular section?
From a quick look, this RfC seems to be the most conclusive, so let me see if I can summarize the points and reply here:
- Doesn't add anything that the lead doesn't include. — My edit adds the map, namesake and website, but maybe those are considered trivial.
- Map is not useful; coordinates can replace it. — It seems like the map has gotten more useful since that discussion happened, but true, coordinates can replace it for the most part.
- An infobox can't cover the breadth of the topic. — No one is arguing that it should. It can just include info that can be summarized easily.
- "reduces the size of the main image" — Fair enough, but you can click on it to expand it.
- "every similar article has one, e.g., Windsor Castle, Tower of London, Palace of Versailles, the Kremlin, the White House" — That's part of the reason I added it: consistency, allowing for info at a glance.
Would that be a fair summary/response?
I'm skipping over some points that seem invalid to me, like that it's the decision of the article's "main authors" (which sounds like ownership).
— W.andrea (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- A couple of thing to note. First off, because this has had a previous RfC that concluded for exclusion, you'd need more than the two of us talking to reach the level of consensus needed to overturn that. Second, your last point is very specifically not something that can be used as an argument, since per MOS:INFOBOXUSE consensus is reached at each specific article - whether another article does or doesn't have one, or does or doesn't have a specific parameter, isn't considered relevant. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- OK, gotcha. I was more looking to understand the reasoning for not having one, but I guess if that comes down to "we had a vote and people said no", that's good enough for me, regardless of why they said no.
- And just to clarify my last point, I'm not saying it needs to have an infobox because other articles do, just that consistency across articles helps with finding info quickly, that's all.
- — W.andrea (talk) 18:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry but those maps are not useful. You click the teeny tiny map to enlarge and the red dot disappears making it completely useless. Firebrace (talk) 18:50, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Have you tried the map in my revision? There's no red dot, there's an actual outline of the palace, and it stays when you click to expand it. I guess there's some magic going on where it's pulling from WikiData or something. — W.andrea (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- For enough, I hadn't seen that style of map before. Firebrace (talk) 20:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
- Have you tried the map in my revision? There's no red dot, there's an actual outline of the palace, and it stays when you click to expand it. I guess there's some magic going on where it's pulling from WikiData or something. — W.andrea (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Lead Image
@Firebrace Is it possible use a picture that just showed the iconic facade, instead of aeriel view of the palace? (we can still put the picture somewhere in the article to showcase the palace).
The rationale for this is because all other Palace thumbnail images only featured the famous main facade.
Kensington Palace, Hofburg Palace, Hampton Court, Versailles, Windsor Castle, Royal Palace of Caserta, Royal Palace of Madrid, Royal Palace of Amsterdam