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Hi CNMall41, I hope you're doing well. I came across Babil Khan's article today, on which you're working, and saw that a new user WaftCinematic published it and has literally just copy-pasted Draft:Babil Khan on which I was working for a few months now and was waiting for it to be moved to the mainspace through AfC since it was rejected once by a reviewer. Now that the article is already published, what do you think can be done with the draft, delete or redirect? ManaliJain (talk) 05:16, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ManaliJain:, I am not sure really. There are some issues with that user moving a lot of pages to mainspace that do not meet guidelines. I am on the fence with taking Babil Khan to AfD so I was cleaning it up to try to hopefully find notability to save it. Maybe just keep the draft as-is for now so there is a copy in the event the mainspace page gets deleted?--CNMall41 (talk) 05:26, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ManaliJain:, actually, I think most of the offending content and references are now gone. Appears to meet WP:GNG. As far as the draft, it is up to you if you want to delete it or redirect (although I do not see many redirects from drafts). --CNMall41 (talk) 05:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the update. It's good to hear that the issues with the content and references have been addressed, and that the page now appears to meet WP:GNG. Appreciate your input on this matter. ManaliJain (talk) 06:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

hey @CNMall41 –– after my last experience with creating a page, I must admit I am nervous to 'be bold' and try to add more pages.

My question is this, should I never publish without AfD? Is AfD the requirement? (Draftspace)

Also I did a lot of browsing and reading through the forums last night and want to say I am sorry if I came off defense. I didn't realize that people abusing wikipedia and doing paid stuff was so prevalent and bad –– and I can totally understand why someone like me (new editor) might raise eyebrows. Thanks for your help thus far! Comintell (talk) 21:42, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm curious what Wikipedia "forums" this editor read. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:10, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

These: Wikipedia:Teahouse Wikipedia:Dispute resolution Wikipedia:Reference desk Comintell (talk) 03:24, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't be discouraged. I will tell you there is no requirement that you submit through WP:AfC, although I highly recommend it. When I first started I created pages in the mainspace and only after learning guideline more thoroughly did I realize that some of them shouldn't have been created. I subsequently went back and requested some be deleted. For someone just starting out, I would recommend going through AfC as you can get feedback on drafts prior to them being moved to the mainspace. You will pick up on guidelines quicker until you have the hang of it and are more comfortable with moving them yourself. I still occasionally submit to AfC if I feel the community may disagree with my notability assessment on a page I want to create.--CNMall41 (talk) 06:59, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Comintell (talk) 08:03, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, CNMall41,

Please do not tag pages for CSD G5 speedy deletion when you suspect the page creator is a sockpuppet or when you file a SPI case. Please wait until they've been identified as a block-evading sockpupet by a Checkuser or an SPI admin clerk. Thank you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:51, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, @Liz:, I never do it on suspicion. They were blocked a little while ago as an obvious sock of the original blocked/banned user:Bikrookanpurgangster. --CNMall41 (talk) 04:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kavya Kishor is a notable magazine. So I think it may eligible for approve. Mohammad Husen (talk) 17:02, 20 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shaheen Sayyed was created by a sock. It is also a spam article. Why was the G5 declined by an admin. What is the next step to delete this article? 2409:40F3:28:76FE:8000:0:0:0 (talk) 15:03, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a question for the declining admin as I was not involved with the speedy deletion request. It looks like it was requested by @Liz: for A7 which was declined on November 24, 2023, with your nomination under A5 declined on November 27, 2023. Would be eligible for speedy if the sock is confirmed but there could be a number of reasons for the decline. Pinging @Ivanvector: who made the actual decline as I don't have the same information they have so cannot opine about reasoning. --CNMall41 (talk) 21:40, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The speedy deletion criteria are not mandatory (possibly excepting WP:G10 and WP:G12) - tagging an article does not mean that it will be deleted. They are meant to be used for uncontroversial deletions, and once a tag has been removed then deletion is by definition controversial, thus speedy deletion is no longer available. I started a deletion discussion for the article earlier today, you're welcome to comment there. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 21:43, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanvector:, Which makes perfect sense. I am looking at the references now and will leave a !vote. I see the comments on the SPI as well. Only reason I added to it is because I saw the case was open and there was a comment at this SPI I filed which mentions one was already open for connected users and requested to merge the two. Let me know for sure if should just start a new one for these when they come up as I don't want to bog down the process. Cheers!--CNMall41 (talk) 21:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, @CNMall41, hope all are good and well. As you have redirect tye page Family Star to Vijay Deverakonda as per deletion discussion. But I want to tell you that once the page has been deleted for the reason: WP:TOOSOON and It was later accepted for mainspace. I think you have done this for previous reason. Please see the matter. Thank you in anticipation. Rasel Hasan🇮🇳 (talk) (contribs) 11:04, 28 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mr. Rasel Hasan:, AfC is not an "approval," it is a review by editors who will move something to the mainspace if they feel it is notable. This page was already decided at the discussion to be a redirect so undoing the page that was created was an WP:ATD. You are free to remove if you so wish but I would need to then take it back to AfD for discussion. I will say I am suspicious that despite two previous declines, moving it to the mainspace, draftification, then re-moving it to the main space, then an AfD discussion for redirect (all within a two month period), you would attempt to recreate the page so soon. I have to ask if you have a WP:COI with regards to this topic, especially per WP:PAID. --CNMall41 (talk) 06:23, 29 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hey,

actually I cannot understand why you removed the business trends I added in the Alibaba Group article. The readability of the former table was bad. That's more a reason to improve the readablity than to delete it per WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM. I also cannot see anything 'promotional' in that table. It's neutral data based information that improves the understanding of the company's state for the reader. Actually the infobox and the text in the articles of many company articles 'host a company's financials'. Wikipedia is surely not a 10K. A 10K has dozens of pages and that table is less than one page - focused on the key figures.

Can you give the WP rule that says key business figures require consensus on the article's talk page? WikiPate (talk) 04:07, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The specific WP rule would be WP:ONUS which is the policy for inclusion. Alibaba is a publicly traded company so it would be promotional to promote figures like this unless there is some type of context (meaning, why is it relevant). In regards to infoboxes, those only show the current company snapshot so it would be a false comparison as what was removed is a historical record dating back to 2016. So it was removed under WP:NOT, specifically WP:PROMO and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Best place for this discussion is on that talk page. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:56, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What are thinking about always reverting the changes eventhough which i have made it correctly. Deleting the pages saying that abusing accounts blocking You are a idiotic user nonsense.... CVSDW (talk) 07:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"All of us" is the issue. WP:UPE is the issue. Sorry, not sorry. --CNMall41 (talk) 07:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Because of you and User:Liz only Jishnu Raghavavan article has been deleteted. Why are making so upset I don't know CVSDW (talk) 09:18, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia means is free to edit but beacause of you all of fellow users I'm unfree TO Edit and again my edits are reverting with your certain rules like Speedy deletion, SOCK, CSD, COI...You making me so upset... CVSDW (talk) 09:24, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you should stop editing in violation of WP:UPE. That would help. --CNMall41 (talk) 09:55, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I've always admired and still admires your contributions. I just wanted to say something regarding Jishnu Raghavan. I still don't think it has to be G5'd. Firstly I don't believe any UPE is involved. Secondly Jishnu Raghavan is a well-known Malayalam actor and easily passes WP:GNG and WP:ENT. Multiple editors including myself had objected the G5. I must say that it is totally unfair that we do not have an article about him. Despite everything, I would have written the article myself. But the problem is that I'm back on traveling like I was at the end of October, and I'm even worried about my active participation in the upcoming NPP backlog drive. I'm not sure how long I'll be able to contribute to wikipedia at my usual rate because I'm considering taking a permanent break owing to my demanding and hectic travel schedule. Sooner or someday I will look into creating the article myself. Finally I would like to appreciate you for keeping an eye on the newly emerging socks. Thanks again. Thilsebatti (talk) 16:20, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]