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:::::It is also mentioned that he found guilty!
:::::It is also mentioned that he found guilty!
:::::There was no record,none of the renowned historian mentioned about that he was found guilty & he had done murder or voilance.I think we should follow jadunath sarkar's work for this as he invested more about the reign of Aurangzeb & according to him only after when Sambhaji refused to surrender his kingdom he was executed brutality.there was no other reason to it. [[User:Aryan330|Aryan330]] ([[User talk:Aryan330|talk]]) 13:50, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
:::::There was no record,none of the renowned historian mentioned about that he was found guilty & he had done murder or voilance.I think we should follow jadunath sarkar's work for this as he invested more about the reign of Aurangzeb & according to him only after when Sambhaji refused to surrender his kingdom he was executed brutality.there was no other reason to it. [[User:Aryan330|Aryan330]] ([[User talk:Aryan330|talk]]) 13:50, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
::::::We typically don't use words such as "Brutally" on Wikipedia as it violates [[WP:NPOV]].
::::::Also I believe you are referring to the statement
::::::"In 1689, the second Maratha Chhatrapati (King) Sambhaji was executed by Aurangzeb. In a sham trial, he was found guilty of murder and violence, atrocities against the Muslims of Burhanpur and Bahadurpur in Berar by Marathas under his command."
::::::I see nothing wrong with this statement. It states the exact reason why the Mughals executed Shambaji. [[User:SKAG123|SKAG123]] ([[User talk:SKAG123|talk]]) 02:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 May 2023

why there is a link of subah behind the text aurangabad in the death place (in infobox) KuldeepBurjBhalaike (Talk|Cont) 12:05, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lightoil (talk) 12:32, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kuldeepburjbhalaike and Lightoil!
I think the intended meaning is this: He died in Ahmednagar, which was at the time part of the Aurangabad subah (province). Nowadays, the city of Ahmednagar belongs to the district of the same name, and Aurangabad is it's own district [Aurangabad district, Maharashtra]. The area of the historical Aurangabad subah includes both today's Ahmednagar and Aurangabad's districts. So it would be inaccurate to say that he died in "Ahmednagar, Ahmednagar district", because at the time, the Ahmednagar district did not exist.
I'm not sure how to improve the article text to effectively communicate this nuance, though. I'm also just interpreting the existing text and assuming it's accurate, I don't know much at all about the Mughal Empire's provinces. Actualcpscm (talk) 12:39, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
i think it can be written as 'aurangabad subah (now aurangabad)'. KuldeepBurjBhalaike (Talk|Cont) 12:50, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
But Ahmednagar (the city) is no longer part of Aurangabad (the modern district), so it would be:
"Died: XYZ in Ahmednagar, Aurangabad subah (now Ahmednagar district)"
Alternatively, we could just write:
"Died: XYZ in Ahmednagar, Aurangabad subah" with an explanatory footnote that reads "Not to be confused with the modern Aurangabad District. The city of Ahmednagar is now in the modern Ahmednagar District."
I think using an Efn here really helps the readability for a general audience. Let me know what you think! Actualcpscm (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 May 2023

Aurangzeb died due an injury by poison dagger when the Marathas the Mughal at night in his camp stabbed 103.232.239.235 (talk) 09:22, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aurangzeb died an inglorious befitting his treacherous attitude towards Non-Islamists when the Marathas stabbed him with a poisonous dagger in his camp. He suffered immense pain and died on 3rd March 1707 103.232.239.235 (talk) 09:26, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Hyphenation Expert (talk) 09:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 June 2023

The indian movie Aurangzeb doesn't reflect the story of The Greatest Mughal Emperor Aurangzeb Aalamgir. Please verify it at your end and do the necessary. 212.70.117.110 (talk) 05:41, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. No idea what you are requesting, though perhaps you meant to be requesting it at Talk:Aurangzeb (film) Cannolis (talk) 05:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Guru Tegh Bahadur

I think its important to mention the execution of Sikh guru, Guru Teg Bahadur, as Several Reliable sources mention that Guru Tegh Bahadur was executed on the orders of Aurangzeb as below
  1. The Routledge handbook of religion and security
    — Seiple, Chris (2013). The Routledge handbook of religion and security. New York: Routledge. p. 96. ISBN 978-0-415-66744-9.


  2. — Pashaura Singh; Louis E. Fenech (2014). The Oxford Handbook of Sikh Studies. Oxford University Press. pp. 236–238. ISBN 978-0-19-969930-8. Archived from the original on 4 May 2019. Retrieved 12 June 2017.


  3. — Fenech, Louis E. (2001). "Martyrdom and the Execution of Guru Arjan in Early Sikh Sources". Journal of the American Oriental Society. 121 (1). American Oriental Society: 20–31. doi:10.2307/606726. JSTOR 606726.


  4. — Fenech, Louis E. (1997). "Martyrdom and the Sikh Tradition". Journal of the American Oriental Society. 117 (4). American Oriental Society: 623–642. doi:10.2307/606445. JSTOR 606445.


  5. — McLeod, Hew (1999). "Sikhs and Muslims in the Punjab". South Asia: Journal of South Asian Studies. 22 (sup001). Taylor & Francis: 155–165. doi:10.1080/00856408708723379. ISSN 0085-6401.

    RogerYg (talk) 20:22, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 July 2023

I want to restore previous sourced edit & revert good faith edit for the better condition of this page Aryan330 (talk) 07:23, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done It is unclear what changes you wish to see in the article. Please be specific when making an edit request. RegentsPark (comment) 09:42, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@RegentsPark I want to revert a edit by a user who said "Aurangzeb is considered as one of the greatest rulers In Indian history" by removing the statement"he was considered as one of the greatest muslims kings"which had no base neither no evidence provided by editer..
The Statement "one of the greatest rulers In Indian history" requires praising of many renowned historians & he should have done great thing which were unmatchable in past!
Putting one of the greatest to anyone is simply distortion.
& I also want to correct some words which were removed like "brutality" which is common in historical figures & we simply can't remove it . that's it Aryan330 (talk) 13:02, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Aryan330: I see that the text was added by a sock in this diff. Restoring the para that was changed by that sock. If you want to add anything else, you'll need to seek consensus. RegentsPark (comment) 13:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@RegentsPark see this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1163294910
The term "Brutally" was very common in medival history when the opponent was executed with extreme torture,this word I commonly used!
Almost all historian used this term for that incident that word should not be removed as done by a user recently. Aryan330 (talk) 13:46, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
It is also mentioned that he found guilty!
There was no record,none of the renowned historian mentioned about that he was found guilty & he had done murder or voilance.I think we should follow jadunath sarkar's work for this as he invested more about the reign of Aurangzeb & according to him only after when Sambhaji refused to surrender his kingdom he was executed brutality.there was no other reason to it. Aryan330 (talk) 13:50, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We typically don't use words such as "Brutally" on Wikipedia as it violates WP:NPOV.
Also I believe you are referring to the statement
"In 1689, the second Maratha Chhatrapati (King) Sambhaji was executed by Aurangzeb. In a sham trial, he was found guilty of murder and violence, atrocities against the Muslims of Burhanpur and Bahadurpur in Berar by Marathas under his command."
I see nothing wrong with this statement. It states the exact reason why the Mughals executed Shambaji. SKAG123 (talk) 02:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]