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2. There was no global authority compiling these figures.
2. There was no global authority compiling these figures.
3. Individual certifications are well short of the claimed figures. I recognise decades ago not many countries had them. But just follow your own rules and say that a minimum percentage of certificated sales have to be proven. [[User:Coachtripfan|Coachtripfan]] ([[User talk:Coachtripfan|talk]]) 17:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
3. Individual certifications are well short of the claimed figures. I recognise decades ago not many countries had them. But just follow your own rules and say that a minimum percentage of certificated sales have to be proven. [[User:Coachtripfan|Coachtripfan]] ([[User talk:Coachtripfan|talk]]) 17:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)

:I agree. Worst example is In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry (see previous comment)
:I believe song should not be listed until we have a reliable source, not removed when we find reliable source number is incorrect [[User:Tillywilly17|Tillywilly17]] ([[User talk:Tillywilly17|talk]]) 20:30, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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duplicate entry

Bruno Mars - Grenade is listed twice

Call Me Maybe updated figures

Call Me Maybe has now sold over 20 million units according to her official website. Hope this helps !

Source: https://www.carlyraemusic.com/content/about

Is Sweet Mother by Prince Nico Mbarga well cited?

Its only one article that cites the sales number, and it's not a very in depth source. Does this pass muster? I ask because I was browsing this list and have never seen this song here before. QueensanditsCrazy (talk) 06:31, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While the sales aspect might be questionable, seeing all the sites that declare the song as “Africa’s Anthem” including one by the BBC in 2006, I wouldn’t doubt the validity of the sales. Also seeing as the BBC backs up an estimation of around 13 million here while also adding that the sales were primarily in Africa, I would say it holds, but if someone with more editing history/knowledge disagrees I would understand. |1Falco3&#124 (talk) 12:39, 8 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rivers of Babylon

It is missing from the list. It sold 2 million in the UK. Over 1.5 million in Germany. Another million in France. 2.5 Million in South America. It was the biggest selling single of 1978 in South Africa and was number one in many other countries. Check the wikipedia for the song. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.34.235.215 (talk) 00:24, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look, and if you add up the numbers given at Rivers_of_Babylon#Sales_and_certifications, you only get about 8 million (though of course there are probably some sales missing). I think the reason is that although this was a huge hit in the UK (I remember it, it was everywhere at the time!) it failed to have such a big impact in the US or Canada. Without North America on board, it would be hard for it to break through the magic 10 million barrier. Thanks for suggesting this, though! Walkerma (talk) 20:52, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry

There is no way that this track is the fourth best song of all-time. The first citation is a biog of lead singer Ray Dorset which claims the song sold 30 million copies worldwide. Included in this 30 million are a claimed 6 million sales in the UK. According the the official record (officialcharts.com) only 178 songs have ever sold a million in in the UK, and In The Summertime isn’t one of them. In fact there were no million sellers in the UK that year. If it had sold 6 million in the UK it would the biggest selling song ever in this market. The biog used is in the citation is wildly inaccurate. 86.167.157.75 (talk) 20:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

last.fm states that the total sales in 1970 were ‘estimated’ being 6 million. It shares the following info also: the 7 weeks atop the UK charts, 2 weeks in Canada and reaching number 3 on Billboards Hot 100. If correct it never did the 6 million in the UK alone. Guessing the 30 million is a fabrication, not fact. Will continue to investigate. THX1136 (talk) 01:02, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

While there is no source listed songfacts.com claims worldwide sales of 16 million. Seems high to me, but possibly more likely than 30 million.THX1136 (talk) 01:10, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Inflated Sales Figures

Many of the physical sales are inflated

1. Just because something appears in print doesn't make it true. White Christmas selling 50 million isca claim - and has never been broken down by country, for example. 2. There was no global authority compiling these figures. 3. Individual certifications are well short of the claimed figures. I recognise decades ago not many countries had them. But just follow your own rules and say that a minimum percentage of certificated sales have to be proven. Coachtripfan (talk) 17:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Worst example is In The Summertime - Mungo Jerry (see previous comment)
I believe song should not be listed until we have a reliable source, not removed when we find reliable source number is incorrect Tillywilly17 (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]