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I do not wish to list sports which i personally believe are not "extreme", but we need a working definition, or some sort of consensus on what is an "extreme sport". Mere personal participation in a sport does not make it "extreme" no matter how much we may want to appear cool or whatnot. If a definition or consensus not be reached, then this list should be deleted.(Athomeonarock 05:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC))[reply]

What am I saying with this admittedly provocative heading? That it shouldn't be Wikipedia contributors who "decide" whether something is an extreme sport. Like anything on Wikipedia, there should be a citation demonstrating that something is considered an extreme sport by some authority other than the author. Is this a misguided notion, that nobody has mentioned it yet? --Stellmach 14:06, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the following statement because it appears to be POV: Please Note: Horse Riding, Cross Country Riding, Show Jumping, Hunting and any other form of riding a horse is not an extreme sport. And should never ever been considered an extreme sport.

I wasn't aware that anyone was ever trying to consider horseback riding or anything similar as an extreme sport. The statement just appears to be too much of a violation of NPOV (though there's still a little bit of POV here and there in this article). --Elkman 20:56, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken some time to pull the socks up on this article; the editorial standards are not what they should be for such a major activity. I am ex-Oxford University Dangerous Sports Club btw.. and I was there a while back - before the phrase extreme sports was even thought of! And yeah; I should be literate as I studied as hard as I .. Grroin 14:25, 22 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Have put urban golf up for delete and maybe the link should go from here. By no stretch of the imagination should this be in extreme sport listGrroin 01:50, 28 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I really do not consider these two extreme sports. If someone does not give me a good reason to keep them then I will delete them. It is not something I would qualify as a risky activity. Unless you are yatching around antartica, or riding a unicycle over a cliff QzarBaron 02:53, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a very ignorant statement, you should be ashamed of yourself. If you would put two seconds into researching unicycling, you would find a culture of unicycling that one would never think exists. There are professional mountain unicyclist and trial riders. Kris Holmes, for example, has his own line of unicycling seats just as a skateboarder would have a line of helmets. Just because unicycling is portrayed as a clown thing, it doesn’t mean that it is, there is a whole world out there of extreme unicycling. On the internet you can find clips of unicyclists riding on the edge of canyons and racing down rocky mountains, I myself unicycle and was extremely inspired by the DVD " UNiVERsE 2 : Implosion Factor" which shows some of the crazy stunts unicyclers have preformed that would wow the eyes of anyone and for sure should be seen as an extreme sport. Go to this link, [1] , and watch a clip from the DVD if you don’t believe me. I’m just saying there should be a whole section on just extreme unicycling on Wikipedia, because there is more than enough to write pages upon pages about it.

Same can be said about yatching, except you don't have to do research, just watch TV. The oceans are extreme enviroments par excellence, racing in them is extreme sport. 82.181.150.151 21:13, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that unicycling should be in the list. i unicycle, and think that it should be rcognized as a "extreme" sport.

i was extremely disappointed with the contents of the first page...

we need a much broader and deeper view on Extreme sports...

the current content is highly biased and does no justice to the title...

Removed. It is a team game, no different from football, rugby or hockey. Indeed, the later two are considerably more extreme than Ultimate Frisbee. Damiancorrigan 15:49, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Certainly a POV, not dangerous, not "frindge". can not be considered extreme in any situation

Good job. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)

Anyone consider adding jousting? Just a thought I had off the top of my head.

Why don't cha put gladiating in than? I think extreme sports have to be from this time or the future. — [Mac Davis] (talk) (Desk|Help me improve)

Added barefoot skiing as it is a very different discipline of Water skiing similar to how snow boading and wake boarding differ from skiing. It is also has its own competitions and 40+ miles per hour on your feet is definitely extreme.

Good point. Although it does occur today, it isn't widely enough practiced to justify being listed.

Surely these are not "extreme" sports...

Surfing is note an extreme sport? Are you crazy? Try surfing Teahupoo. Please, do your homework before writing nonsense. But, and now a big BUT, there should not be a List of Extreme sports here, because it's completely subjective. I propose to create a separate article with a list of Extreme Sports and see if this article meets wikipedia standards. If not, then the list will be deleted and the Extreme Sports article will remain clean of all this POV thing. Regards Loudenvier 20:29, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. I've removed the list of extreme sports from this article. The reasoning is simple: This article about Extreme Sports is an important article given the prominence of Extreme Sports in the media, etc. It would be a waste to degrade the quality of this article and further disputes on it's talk page because of a list of so-called extreme sports. We had a similar problem with the Virtuoso article: people started a list of Virtuosi players, but, who is considered a virtuoso? It's POV to consider a guitar player virtuoso or not, unless a reliable source for that had stated so. For example, Jimi Hendrix is considered a virtuoso by the media and by lazy people. He however wasn't a guitar virtuoso. He lacked the discipline and technical skills of a true virtuoso. He made lots of performance mistakes live, which a virtuoso should never commit. If you see Steve Vai playing perfectly a lot of songs which are much more technical demanding than any Jimi Hendrix song you will start to understand what I'm saying. The fact is that, to consider Jimi Hendrix a virtuoso or not, is a holplessly POV statement. The same applies to an Extreme Sport. Someone here said Surfing is not an extreme sport. To me this one is crazy or narrow minded: Everyday surf in small waves is certainly not too extreme :-). But try surfing Teahupoo at a size: Isn't it an extreme sport? Of course it is, but in my humble opinion, or, in other words, POV. So I decided to eliminate the list and create it's own article. In the process I'm shielding the article about Extreme Sports, as a definition, from the discussion about the list of extreme sports. In the end, this list can be considered non-encyclopedic, and be deleted by administrator. In this case, no such list will be allowed on the article too, because it couldn't stand in wikipedia by itself, because its unencyclopedic. I think this is the way to help improving the Extreme articles and move unproductive discussions to it's proper place/page. Regards. Loudenvier 20:48, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I had a feeling "Extreme Sports" was a BS term that really amounted to mostly marketing & hype! :-D --BillyTFried 23:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

With reference to the comment "I removed the following statement because it appears to be POV: Please Note: Horse Riding, Cross Country Riding, Show Jumping, Hunting and any other form of riding a horse is not an extreme sport. And should never ever been considered an extreme sport."

I would ask what your thoughts are on the task asked of the jockey in a Thoroughbred race? Every time they sit in the saddle of a 550kg animal at high speed with a number of other competitors in the race, they take their lives into their hands. Consider balancing on the balls of your feet and guiding a thoroughbred over a mile where one false step could be disastrous. I believe the following elements are attained:

"An extreme sport (also called action sport, adventure sport, and adventurous sport) is any sport featuring speed, height, danger, a high level of physical exertion, highly specialized gear, or spectacular stunts." Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.42.2.11 (talk) 15:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC).[reply]