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I'm also going to let MichaelMaggs and Saposcat know because they're knowledgable about the subject and you hold them in high regard.<br>[[User:JFD|JFD]] 18:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm also going to let MichaelMaggs and Saposcat know because they're knowledgable about the subject and you hold them in high regard.<br>[[User:JFD|JFD]] 18:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

:Happy to do what I can, but I'm afraid I'll be away from tomorrow until the end of next week.--[[User:MichaelMaggs|MichaelMaggs]] 22:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

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Zen

If Huston Smith is microscopic, that makes Subhash Kak subatomic.
JFD 18:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Which makes arrested communist criminals like Tang Hao subhumans then? Freedom skies| talk  10:14, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


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Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.
JFD 11:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Information icon Hello, I'm [[User:{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}|{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}]]. I noticed that you made a comment that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:{{subst:REVISIONUSER}}|my talk page]]. Thank you.
JFD 04:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


I don't know if you realize this, but one of the sources you cite on Foreign influence on Chinese martial arts has written:

The early Chinese patriarchs were well-versed in the Chinese classics, and they integrated Zen with the accepted philosophies of China, particularly Taoism. Each man contributed in his own way. The Third Patriarch, Seng-ts'an, (d. 606) composed the first Zen poem, "Hsin Hsin Ming, Inscribed on the Believing Mind," which clearly shows the integration between Buddhism and Taoism to form the unique synthesis that is Zen. Taoism sees all phenomena in the world as yin and yang opposites. Buddhism views all as emptiness. Zen blends the two

Best regards,
JFD 17:57, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Think before accusing me

You pointed out the Jihadist user in my forums. If you had taken the time to notice, you would have seen that I have disagreed with him on every occasion. He is an obvious troll, and its not the first time an Indian user pretends to be Pakistani to do this.
I consider it very low of you to ruin an argument by falsely accusing me of such acts.
Please try to post comments of my actual arguments instead of replying to everything but the argument. You had to bring in PakHub, to counter the renaming of an article? what gives?
I have been told to solve these arguments through "dispute solving measures". Believe me I have tried, but you and your friends are not really helping.
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I did not list myself on the mediation. Someone else did that. Your behaviour is totally contrary to the consensus of the scholarly literature. That is clear. Paul B 11:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I signed my name so the mediation could go ahead, since all parties listed have to sign. It was purely to avoid scuppering the procedure. You, however, chose to scupper it anyway. Why was that? Are the mediators all Han nationalists too? If I see Chinese ethnocentrism distorting an aticle I hope I will be as opposed to as to any other nationalist distortion of history. Paul B 12:08, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I couldn't understand why this user User:Netmonger is raising the above problem which totally irrelevant to Talk:Rajkumar Kanagasingam Page. As this is my Bio, could you help me to sort out this matter with him. Rajsingam 13:23, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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your edit to B R Ambedkar article

I do not understand why you removed following from the cost of change ? "There were protests by Ambedkar followers (at Ramabai Ambedkarnagar, Mumbai) but Police had opened up firing and it killed ten people. The officer who ordered this firing , sub-inspector Manohar Kadam has been charged with culpable homicide not amounting to murder.[1]"

There was already debate about this and evidences were provided about it. The sentence prior to this para was about the same incident in Mumbai and the above para gives more information about that incident. Please provide the answers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.107.248.220 (talk) 05:58, 28 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"

Hi

I only posted a simple question: "Are you Arsath?"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Netmonger#Are_you_Arsath.3F

But He has come out with the following lenghthy statement about me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Rajsingam


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Please stop the revert war

I already asked you on January 28 to provide clear descriptions of what you did, and described exactly what I meant:

Hello [name withheld],

Please bear with me; this mail is not as refined as I wanted it to be; I’m really tired now, since it’s already past 1 AM. But I wanted to let you know before another day passes for you.

I noticed you added two new issues. You certainly have a point about the intro, but I’m sorry, it is almost a month now since I asked to provide a list with issues. I can’t accept any major changes at this time anymore because I don’t want to hit a moving target.

I just took a quick glance at the changes in the article, and the first thing I noticed was that you removed the link to Muhammad bin Quasim. Why? If it was an error then I ask you to look through all of your changes to check that they did at least not lower the quality at the basic editorial level.

I’m running out of time for the mediation for this, and I need to reduce the time I am spending on this. There are a number of things you can do to help:

Please insert diffs when you talk about changes. (E.g. when you write “Tigeroo has seen to Islam's mention being removed from both the revival and the Muhammad bin Quasim sections.”, it means I have to go through the page history to find out what you might mean, which takes time for a task for which you don’t need a mediator.) Can you add the diffs to your existing statements in the talk page, please?

Another problem is that the display of diffs is often very hard to read. Often, one column gets expanded to the width of the whole screen, making it impossible to compare side by side. In other instanced, two seemingly identical paragraphs don’t match up. This can be mitigated by good edit summaries. I appreciate that you have started to provide some summaries. But I would prefer if you had clear descriptions of what you did. Please confer to how I did it: I always refer to the section that describes the change, so nobody has to guess. Since edit summaries can’t be changed after the fact, I would like you to please provide a table of your changes with the following headline:

Change Changed in edit (diff) Reason given in issue #
deleted “bringing Indian societies into contact with Islam” [2] #999 Islam @ Somewhere


(I’m using “change” different from “edit”. There are probably a dozen or more changes per major edit.)

Once this is done I will look at the changes and your pertinent comments.

Cheers,

Sebastian

You consistently ignored this request since. Then I added a template to the article that clearly states that you should refrain from controversial issues. You just reverted this for the second time.

Please refrain from any edits on the articles currently under mediation. Please also read Wikipedia_talk:Mediation_Cabal/Cases/2006-12-26_Decline_of_Buddhism_in_India#Proposal_for_new_procedure.

Thank you, — Sebastian 11:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

(Moving the reply here from my talk page - please let's keep the thread together. — Sebastian 22:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC))[reply]

Sebastian,

Kindly consider:-

  • I provided the link to Muhammad bin Quasim. See here for confirmation
  • I reported the changes in a table on the discussion page of the case. The format was a table, as you wanted.
  • I edited in the "revival" section, which Tigeroo edited before me. His editing constituted more than Dr. BR Ambedekar.
  • I edited in the bin Quasim section. You yourself said that I was free to edit there and mention additional details as well.

I have taken all of the steps you asked me to, Sebastian.

Take into account the constant removal of sourced content by Tigeroo, Sebastian. His agenda of removing every mention of Islam's damage to Buddhism should be clear by now. I don't believe you would advocate Quasim's destruction of a Buddhist holy shrine as "stamping his victory?"

The revert war was not started by me, Tigeroo kept on reverting the entire article. I just exercised my right to edit on the revival and Quasim sections, the well sourced text did not deter Tigeroo from incessant revrsion though. Is unilateral editing by one party involved fair? especially when the other party's edits are incessantly removed by that party.

I extend a request to kindly take that into account and restore my version, kindly judge the content for yourself before you take to the ramblings of the stubborn.

I will reply to Tigeroo's queries in a few hours.

Extending best regards as always,

Freedom skies| talk  13:51, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minor and obsolete points

Edit quality was only a small issue, but since you mentioned it I want to give you a reply. Yes, it is true that you reinserted the link to Qasim. But this wasn't what I was asking. I asked "Why [did you delete the link]? If it was an error then I ask you to look through all of your changes to check that they did at least not lower the quality at the basic editorial level." You didn't reply to that, and I have no indication that you checked all of your changes. But you don't have to reply - just let's forget about this; it is not really a concern for this mediation.

Table: OK, I see the table now. I thought it was written by Tigeroo, because I saw only his signature there (from his reply). Sorry about that, it was just a simple misunderstanding. Since Tigeroo reverted your changes, you don't have to worry about the tables anymore. My real issue at this time is the following, for which I'd like to dedicate its own section. — Sebastian 23:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Detailed edit summaries and exact references to agreements

I appreciate that you started in the right direction. What I'm missing is the level of detail I asked for when I wrote "I’m using “change” different from “edit”. There are probably a dozen or more changes per major edit.", and when I used "deleted “bringing Indian societies into contact with Islam”" as an example in the table. But I realize I could have been clearer about that.

I'm sorry that I can't fulfil your request for evaluating POVs at the level of large edits like this. Maybe “chunks” would have been a more descriptive word than “changes”. What I mean are small changes that do not spread over more than one sentence, or are just replacing one term. Please reply to my proposal on WT:MEDCAS/DoBiI#Proposal for new procedure and let me know if you agree.

Thank you, — Sebastian 23:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Out of context exclamation by User:Dangerous-Boy

NEVER! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dangerous-Boy (talk • contribs) 20:08, 31 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Can we invite another mediator?

Your valued opinion is requested at Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-26 Decline of Buddhism in India#Can we invite another mediator?. — Sebastian 23:20, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Freedom skies

Very well, I'll leave Foreign influence on Chinese martial arts alone for now. But as it stands, the "Opposing theories" does not accurately convey the work of the authors cited. Matsuda, Lin and Ling are concerned with the authenticity of Yi Jin Jing, not with the historicity of Bodhidharma.
JFD 18:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Good luck with your exams.
JFD 18:34, 5 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Zen

Knverma has merged the various Zen articles.

As a courtesy, I'm letting you know that I will be making edits to the Zen article, including the history section.

You already know that I'm a stickler for the official Wikipedia standards for reliable sources and the accurate representation of those sources.

I'm telling you this now because I do not want this to escalate into another edit war.

I'm also going to let MichaelMaggs and Saposcat know because they're knowledgable about the subject and you hold them in high regard.
JFD 18:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Happy to do what I can, but I'm afraid I'll be away from tomorrow until the end of next week.--MichaelMaggs 22:47, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]