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== Hero World Challenge 2021 is not on the PGA list you keep going on about. == |
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Jimmy the above event is not on the PGA Schedule you keep referring too, but this event is still in the unofficial events section why ?. because we know it is on. That schedule was drafted last August.The Match was announced yesterday please do not use that as an excuse to remove the event because the Hero world challenge is not on there either ok [[Special:Contributions/80.233.126.173|80.233.126.173]] ([[User talk:80.233.126.173|talk]]) 11:36, 6 October 2021 (UTC) |
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No need to cry cause you couldn't edit the win first. Try next time. As I already mentioned at the beginning, Tournament was done kid. Did I say 'CHEERS'?!! ;) lol
- Fair play big guy, you obviously 'knew' what you were doing, even though you weren't able to predict the winning score. I might not always win, I can accept that. But you sir, you will always be a twat. Enjoy the rest of your day. :) Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:26, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
"CHEERS" LMFAO.. Eat it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaysaurus (talk • contribs) 12:30, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Please wait for tournaments to finish before updating articles, regardless of how inevitable the result may seem. Until all rounds are complete, and scorecards have been checked, signed and verified, (and results published) nothing is certain. Wikipedia is neither a fortune teller (WP:CRYSTAL) nor a breaking news service (WP:NOTNEWS/WP:BREAKING). Regards, wjematherplease leave a message... 14:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- No problem my man. Jimmymci234 (talk) 14:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
- I thought we we waiting for tournaments to finish (diff)? wjematherplease leave a message... 12:14, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well yes, but how come all morning I was tring to combat this guy Klaysaurus as he kept putting the win in even after 12 holes!! Where were you at then??? How come you're telling me off rather than him??! Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Firstly, I don't have many bios watchlisted and Matt Fitz isn't one of them, so hadn't seen any of that. Secondly, I'm not always online. Anyway, there are ways to deal with such problem editors. It is important to post appropriate warnings on their talk page; useful warning templates in this instance include {{uw-crystal}}, {{uw-3rr}}, {{npa}}. If the behaviour persists, request administrator intervention via the appropriate noticeboard (WP:AN3, WP:ANI, etc.). Regards, wjematherplease leave a message... 13:22, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well yes, but how come all morning I was tring to combat this guy Klaysaurus as he kept putting the win in even after 12 holes!! Where were you at then??? How come you're telling me off rather than him??! Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:18, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
"You surely cant guarantee it now"... LMAO you sure kiddo? OH also I see you are the snitch type. lol pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klaysaurus (talk • contribs) 12:32, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ok cool dude. Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:37, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
Western Australian Open
Hi Jimmy,
I recently created pages of Ross Metherell, David Galloway (golfer), and Mike Ferguson (golfer). All of these golfers won the Western Australian Open in the 1970s. You enfolded some of these wins under the PGA Tour of Australasia banner and some not. I wondered why. Below is the information:
Metherell won the 1974 Western Australian Open. You did not categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win. Ferguson won the 1977 event. You did not categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win. Galloway won the 1978 event. (Incidentally Metherell and Ferguson finished in second in this event.) You did categorize this as a PGA Tour of Australasia win.
Basically what evidence do you have that helped you determine when it was an Order of Merit event and when it was not?
Also, I would like to include wjemather in this conversation. He has been doing work on old Australian Tour calendars.
Any information would be much appreciated.
Oogglywoogly (talk) 20:13, 10 December 2020 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Hello there Mr ooggly. I basically went off the season calendars produced by Wjemather on his Australasian tour subpage. Obviously there is no concrete evidence to suggest that those events were/weren’t part of the tour in those years. I suppose most of it is original research and making assumptions but the line has to be drawn somewhere.
I actually have a question for you while I’m here. In all of these pages that you’ve created for these lesser known Australian pros, why is the amount of detail in them basically similar to the amount of detail in someone like Tiger Woods’ page. Surely this amount of unnecessary detail doesn’t reflect their status or significance in any relation to the history of golf. But don’t take any offence to that as I’m sure you’ve put a lot of time and effort into creating them. Just my view of it at the end of the day. Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 21:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for the response. I appreciate your work with the tables as they are well done. As I've said before, however, I think you're being a bit presumptuous with the Australian events. The reason wjemather hasn't produced many seasonal calendars for the PGA Tour of Australasia is due to the lack of evidence we have to determine what was an Order of Merit event. And if you are going to integrate these events within a table I would suggest using 1973, the year the tour began, as the demarcation line. The 1977/1978 distinction you have for the Western Australian Open seems random. I also noticed on the page of Mike Ferguson (golfer) you labeled his 1981 win at the New South Wales PGA Championship as official while his victory two months later at the Queensland PGA Championship as unofficial. Likewise, it seems random.
Also I would like to respond to your question; I am not offended by it. I don't have any great reason why I create such detailed pages other it just seems natural to me. I am not trying to create especially detailed or lengthy pages. My process is simply that I look up the guy's name on Trove or another search engine, find stuff, and add what I think to be notable. I tend to only include wins, other tops tens (usually very high top tens), and course records. While the pages may seem very detailed I only include a very small minority from their golfing career. Most of these guys play several hundred professional events over the course of their careers and I usually only include a couple dozen highlights. Again wins, high top tens, and course records seem fundamentally notable to me, especially when national news services cover this information in their story about the round. Also, not to sound like an elitist, but I feel comparing my work to other golfers' pages on WikiProject Golf is a bit unfair. Most of the pages seem hastily created, lack the necessary citations, and are just poorly done overall.
So that's it... please tell me what you think.
Sincerely, Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:23, 12 December 2020 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
What did you change the edit on Tiger Woods? I was using the same format as each of the other Career Grand Slam Winners! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinskogg (talk • contribs) 23:39, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
If you actually looked at all golfers of this era who played in majors from 2018 to 2019, you would notice that the playing order of the majors changed. The edit is to reflect that and stay consistent with other golfers pages. Take a look at some of other current players pages and you will see why. Thanks Jimmymci234 (talk) 08:42, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
1986 Nedlands Masters
Hi Jimmy,
I recently created a page for Lyndsay Stephen. Thank you for creating the "Professional wins" table. I noticed you filled in the details for his win at the 1986 Nedlands Masters. I was wondering if you had a link for the event. I was looking to add details for his victory in the text and all I have is the OWGR site. Any help would be much appreciated.
Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- Hi there Oogly, I actually can’t remember the link, but I’m pretty sure it was from either The Age or Sydney Morning Herald on google news archives. If you type in the date then hopefully there should be something in either one of those papers. Hope that helps, thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 07:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, I found one from the Sydney Morning Herald added it to his page. In general, when creating these "Professional wins" tables could you put the citation below the table? First off we're supposed to do that. Secondly it would make it easier for other editors (like in this situation) to find valuable information.
- Sincerely,
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 18:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Sounds good my friend. Jimmymci234 (talk) 19:08, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks!
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 03:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Field criteria
Hi there. In case you missed the discussions, the bold pseudo-headings for eligibility criteria were specifically identified as the biggest MOS issue with individual golf tournament articles. It was made clear that none will reach WPs front page with this kind of formatting formatting, so we need to find a better way of doing it – like the separate field articles for the majors, but that's probably unjustifiable for WGCs. Regards. wjematherplease leave a message... 21:15, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Players
Yep, there is now sufficient coverage to pass WP:CRYSTAL and justify this season's article, but as a bare-bones outline its not serving any purpose, so we need to be sure to expand/update (and include some independent sources). Regards. wjematherplease leave a message... 10:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yep no problem, will have a go at updating most of it whenever I get a chance. Jimmymci234 (talk) 11:33, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Points leaders
Hi there. I notice you keep disambiguating some tournament names after I have updated the tables. There really is no need for this as they are hidden from the reader, but if you intend to continue, may I suggest making the changes on my sandbox master copies since I'm just copy-pasting from there each week after updating and checking, and hence over-writing your changes. The tables can be found here: PGA Tour and European Tour. Cheers, wjematherplease leave a message... 12:27, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- No problem, I know it's not life or death but it's just for the sake of consistency as you've used most other sponsored names except the Houston Open and CJ Cup. Hope that clears it up. Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:29, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
Tiger Woods Champions for charity
Hi Jimmy i am going to change Tiger's win in that Champions for Charity into exhibition matches aswell ok ?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.167.133.97 (talk) 12:59, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah thats ok. Jimmymci234 (talk) 13:18, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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Phil Mickelson
Was his 2021 win not one of these Majors? Not an expert like you- but thought it was and thus 7 is total now.
Can you clarify? Ta
Kaybeesquared (talk) 10:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- No, he was on 5 before his 2021 PGA win. After this win he is now on 6.
For clarification the list of them is:
- 2004 Masters
- 2005 PGA
- 2006 Masters
- 2010 Masters
- 2013 Open
- 2021 PGA
Total = 6. Jimmymci234 (talk) 10:42, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
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Jon Rahm
Where is the policy/guideline supporting your edits please? Why are you blind reverting my edits? GiantSnowman 10:55, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) Please see MOS:DATEFORMAT – the first examples clearly show that such abbreviations are acceptable in tables. wjematherplease leave a message... 11:10, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- "Only where brevity is helpful" - why is that the case here? GiantSnowman 11:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm of the view that these tables are relatively wide and the abbreviated spelling of the month is better since it makes the tables more compact and might avoid unnecessary wrapping. I can't see that anyone is going to be confused by the 3 letter abbreviations. Nigej (talk) 11:56, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Brevity is always helpful in tables, but especially so in data only columns such as date, in order to avoid needless wrapping on relatively narrow displays. wjematherplease leave a message... 14:15, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough - but that justifies the edit warring blindly reverting my other changes to the article how? It would be nice to have a direct response from Jimmy here. GiantSnowman 14:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think there were/are any objections to the changes in the two citations, but they made up a very small proportion of your changes which also removed several links without explanation. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify anyone's edit-warring, but also please do not pretend that you weren't guilty of edit-warring yourself in reinstating your version twice (just short of 3RR). May I suggest that is would be best for all if we just moved on. wjematherplease leave a message... 14:35, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Don't worry, I'm well aware that I was less than perfect - but I'm not the one who reverted without explanation. I'm the one who made good faith edits (which were blindly reverted without explanation) and I'm the one who attempted to discuss the matter with the other user. Jimmy has so far refused to speak to me. Incredibly poor form. GiantSnowman 14:44, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think there were/are any objections to the changes in the two citations, but they made up a very small proportion of your changes which also removed several links without explanation. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify anyone's edit-warring, but also please do not pretend that you weren't guilty of edit-warring yourself in reinstating your version twice (just short of 3RR). May I suggest that is would be best for all if we just moved on. wjematherplease leave a message... 14:35, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Fair enough - but that justifies the edit warring blindly reverting my other changes to the article how? It would be nice to have a direct response from Jimmy here. GiantSnowman 14:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- "Only where brevity is helpful" - why is that the case here? GiantSnowman 11:45, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Thanks wjemather. Jimmymci234 (talk) 12:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
Hi Mr Snowman, I’ve not been ignoring you, just been busy the last few hours. Sorry for reverting you’re original edit without a comment, I will make sure to do so if it ever happens again. I think the above points from Nigej and wjemather explain my reasoning for reverting your edits. Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 15:52, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- All good, an explanation was all that was needed to diffuse! Thanks all, GiantSnowman 15:56, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
European Senior Tour playoffs
There is an archive on WayBackMachine of a page on the old European Tour website (before they "improved" it) https://web.archive.org/web/20150920060523/http://www.europeantour.com/europeantour/news/newsid=186144.html Might be of interest to you. I don't think the old site ever had more details (eg length of playoff, etc.), at least not in a complete way. Might have been mentioned in news articles. Nigej (talk) 19:42, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
Thanks Nige. I’ve had a quick look around for news articles but there doesn’t seem to be too many. Just trying and fill in as many boxes as I possibly can! It's the same problem with the Challenge Tour. Jimmymci234 (talk) 19:45, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
That's the problem
You decided to re-word the playoff boxes to by instead of rather than with. Then look at this edit[1] of yours. Or the fact you have concentrated your changes on only European Tour playoff boxes. The Ballesteros article isn't the only article with it different in one part of the article than the other....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 22:10, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
I had just simply copied and pasted the table in there and amended accordingly. In regards to Nigej’s amendment to the wording earlier, I think it’s safe to say that ‘by’ makes more sense than ‘with’ and I think more people would agree with that than not. I am willing to amend all boxes over time for consistency amongst every article. Thanks. Jimmymci234 (talk) 22:26, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
- @WilliamJE: From the number of times that people have, over the years, changed things like "Niemann eliminated with par on first hole" to "Niemann eliminated with bogey on first hole" I think it's quite clear that the "eliminated with" terminology is just plain confusing. This came up years ago (Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Golf/Archive 5#Playoff record - clarification required). As I noted there, the day after the discussion someone changed "Campbell eliminated with par on first hole" to "Campbell eliminated with bogey on first hole" (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chad_Campbell&diff=760930184&oldid=753678691) confirming that the terminology with "with" is not the natural reading. There have been a number of such changes in the interim, but as far I as I know no one has ever changed it when we use "eliminated by". As Phimunu said in that first discussion "Changing "eliminated with" to "eliminated by" would fix the ambiguity". "eliminated by" is clearly better and we should go with that everywhere. Nigej (talk) 06:30, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
2014 McGladrey Classic
Some confusion about the 2014 McGladrey Classic. Will MacKenzie missed a long putt and made a bogey but it's not 100% clear to me whether the other two made birdies or par. Both are possible: they might have both made birdie putts after MacKenzie missed. Currently the MacKenzie article says par but the other two say birdie. Nigej (talk) 17:37, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Found in an article that said Streb and de Jonge both made pars on the first playoff hole. Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:03, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Big Easy Tour
Are you sure the current season has ended? The IGT website, which sort of runs in parallel to the official website, lists more possible events. see: https://igtgolf.org/schedule/#/future https://igtgolf.info/tic/tmtic.cgi I'm utterly confused about the relationship between the two "tours". Also IGT seem to run their own separate points-based Road to Sunshine Tour Order of Merit which adds to my confusion. Nigej (talk) 18:15, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
- Not really in all honesty. I sort of assumed that because there were no more events on the schedule and there was an Order of Merit standings published on their website. If this is not the case then I'll hide the section until we definitely know for sure when it is complete. Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:30, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
nationality statuses
Hey,
I noticed that you reverted my edits regarding the nationality status of Chris Williams. Now that I've looked it up I think you're right on the money. OWGR and the Sunshine Tour don't have his nationality status but ET says he is South African. So I think we should stick with that - sorry about any problems my edits caused.
You also mentioned the golfer Doug McGuigan in your comment. Looking at the sites, perhaps his nationality status should change. His Sunshine Tour profile doesn't list a flag. However, his European Tour page and OWGR page say he is Scottish. His PGA Tour page says he is South African but he has never been a member of the PGA Tour. Not sure what your thoughts are.
Oogglywoogly (talk) 19:54, 17 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- Yeah Doug McGuigan's not the easiest one to work out. It has been discussed before on his talk page. I think he is more likely to be South African as was born there, lives there and has played the majority of his golf on the Sunshine Tour. His only ties to Scotland was his Scottish father. Jimmymci234 (talk) 19:59, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, the evidence overwhelming points to him being South African. Looks like he was raised there, has lived there most of his life, and plays almost exclusively on the Sunshine Tour. But nonetheless, two of the three sites I saw said he was Scottish. In addition, according to his 2017 Sunshine Tour profile, according to User: Nigej, his nationality was listed as Scottish.
- Basically, though it instinctively seems like he is a South African, this could be a weird situation where he chooses to represent the country of his forefathers or relatives (e.g. Peter Karmis, Rory Sabbatini). What are your thoughts?
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- First point to note is that we shouldn't be talking about nationality, we should be talking about "sporting nationality". What his actual nationality is, is of no interest to us. Ideally we should be copying the flag that appears next to him in leaderboards, etc. It's not really our business to try to understand why a player chooses a particular flag. In McGuigan's case the use of a Scottish flag (eg at http://www.owgr.com/en/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=4497) does seem odd, but it's been there for quite a few years (eg this from 2014 https://web.archive.org/web/20140822011655/http://www.owgr.com/en/Ranking/PlayerProfile.aspx?playerID=4497). Nigej (talk) 05:55, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:27, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- I see the Sunshine Tour still uses the Scottish flag beside his name on leaderboards. Do you think we need to change his flag on here Nige? Jimmymci234 (talk) 06:00, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Probably we should. Nigej (talk) 06:23, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
- Looks like changes were made. I agree with you guys, I think these changes are for the best.
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Exhibitions
Hey, I noticed you deleted "The Shootout" from the Professional Wins sections of Bob Charles and Russ Cochran. You labeled it as an "exhibition." I don't necessarily disagree with you but was wondering about what the definition of an exhibition was. In addition, I know there has been recent discussion of "Exhibitions" on the talk page but didn't really follow them. If you have the link to those discussions that would help me a lot.
Thanks, Oogglywoogly (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- Thanks for the link. It looks like the McIlroy / Johnson victory remained within their Professional wins section under "Exhibition Wins." Couldn't we create the same sub-heading for all the guys who tied for the win at "The Shootout"?
- Thanks,
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 16:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- Yeah, if you want to do that then absolutely, go for it. Jimmymci234 (talk) 16:22, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, just did it.
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 23:28, 24 August 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
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WGC HSBC Champions
Hi Jimmy the above event only received PGA Tour status in 2013. I think it is misleading to have USA added to the tour events prior to that year. It should just read European Tour to be honest 178.167.217.130 (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Yes, but it was still a sanctioned event on the PGA Tour. However as from the notes which are clearly laid out on the page, that the win in those years depended on whether the winner was a PGA Tour member or not. It would not be factually correct to leave out USA in those years, so I see no need to change it. Jimmymci234 (talk) 22:06, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
Short dates
Per MOS:DATE, short dates are used "[o]nly in limited situations where brevity is helpful."
It goes on to say in footnote b that "[b]y default, Wikipedia does not abbreviate dates"
. I am following the MOS default – this overrides any so-called "consensus" invented at WT:GOLF. —Bloom6132 (talk) 17:50, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- We have had this argument so many times here and I'm quoting this directly from Wjemather in a talk section even on my own talk page re Jon Rahm - "Brevity is always helpful in tables, but especially so in data only columns such as date, in order to avoid needless wrapping on relatively narrow displays." So that is the reason why we use short dates in these tables. Jimmymci234 (talk) 17:56, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Also the tournament name in the tables is not a row heading, so that edit is incorrect also. Jimmymci234 (talk) 17:56, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- The MOS default of full dates takes precedence over any "pronouncement" by an editor. Show me a policy or guideline that is in favour of short dates and I'll gladly comply with it – otherwise, this is just another exercise of WP:ICANTHEARYOU. Also, WP:DTT does not stipulate that "tournament name in the tables is not a row heading". Having the scope row apply to the tournament name is the most relevant for this table. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:13, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, but MOS:DATE doesn't say that you cannot use short dates, so to help with wrapping then it makes more sense to abbreviate dates across all tables. Also, WP:DTT doesn't say that the tournament name is a row heading, so why would you apply scope row to that when it really isn't relevant just because that's what you have decided everyone else should go with??? Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- For the umpteenth time,
"[b]y default, Wikipedia does not abbreviate dates"
. "Helpfulness with wrapping" has absolutely no relevance here and is not mentioned as a situation where we can make an exception to the MOS default. It's not just me saying it – another veteran editor reviewing the article for GA on Talk:Bob McCallister/GA1 said that"if the Golf project is against using row scopes and proper dates, then they are in the wrong. The project-wide guidelines supersede these parochial project "rules"."
And if you continue enforcing these parochial project "rules", you are in the wrong. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:26, 4 September 2021 (UTC)- Well I'm sorry that you're offended. Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:30, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- And MOS:DATE also states that "only in limited situations where brevity is helpful." - which could be applied here, and you also didn't respond re row scope which is not applicable in these tables. But if you're not willing to accept that then that's fine. I'm not gonna argue all day here about your trivial work. Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:34, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- For the umpteenth time,
- Yes, but MOS:DATE doesn't say that you cannot use short dates, so to help with wrapping then it makes more sense to abbreviate dates across all tables. Also, WP:DTT doesn't say that the tournament name is a row heading, so why would you apply scope row to that when it really isn't relevant just because that's what you have decided everyone else should go with??? Jimmymci234 (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
- The MOS default of full dates takes precedence over any "pronouncement" by an editor. Show me a policy or guideline that is in favour of short dates and I'll gladly comply with it – otherwise, this is just another exercise of WP:ICANTHEARYOU. Also, WP:DTT does not stipulate that "tournament name in the tables is not a row heading". Having the scope row apply to the tournament name is the most relevant for this table. —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:13, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
question about Exhibition Wins
Hey,
I wasn't sure if this win by and Brett Upper and Charlie Bolling should be classified as an "Exhibition Win." It was a pairs event and only one round long. I put it under Bolling's "Other wins" as I wasn't sure what to do. (The definition of "Exhibition Wins" is still confusing to me.) Any help would be much appreciated.
Oogglywoogly (talk) 04:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- I am not able to access that link, but I would probably imagine, if in doubt then it would more than likely be an exhibition event. Jimmymci234 (talk) 05:47, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Here is the clipped link: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/84829787/birdie-saves-team-in-sudden-death/. It was an official event on the Philadelphia PGA Section circuit so it strikes me as something more than an exhibition. However, as I stated before, I still don't really know. Let me know what your thoughts are...
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 16:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
- 18 holes and a 'Pro-Pro scramble'. Definitely seems like an exhibition to me. Jimmymci234 (talk) 16:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, just put it under "Exhibition Wins." Thank you for the help.
- Oogglywoogly (talk) 04:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)Oogglywoogly
Hero World Challenge 2021 is not on the PGA list you keep going on about.
Jimmy the above event is not on the PGA Schedule you keep referring too, but this event is still in the unofficial events section why ?. because we know it is on. That schedule was drafted last August.The Match was announced yesterday please do not use that as an excuse to remove the event because the Hero world challenge is not on there either ok 80.233.126.173 (talk) 11:36, 6 October 2021 (UTC)