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Most of Susli's views listed in the article are pretty dubious. However, her opinion of the [[Syrian rebels]] is much more mainstream. If it's to be kept, I reckon it ought to be separated from the rest. [[User:Konli17|Konli17]] ([[User talk:Konli17|talk]]) 19:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
Most of Susli's views listed in the article are pretty dubious. However, her opinion of the [[Syrian rebels]] is much more mainstream. If it's to be kept, I reckon it ought to be separated from the rest. [[User:Konli17|Konli17]] ([[User talk:Konli17|talk]]) 19:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

== my experience with her ==

I first got into her from her video about "Why New World Order wants to destroy Syria?" where I commented on her video about following: Syria was last Middle-eastern country with [[Freedom of Religion]] (remotely) comparable to Indonesia as well it's also one of Arab-speaking countries whose it's Arabic Dubs of Anime and Cartoons doesn't change it's characters religions from censorship

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Possible sources

Found these after a Googling "Maram Susli". Maybe they the content contained therein can be incorporated in some way:

  1. Meet Syria's answer to Kim Kardashian
  2. Meet Syrian Girl, the internet sensation dismissed as a Kim Kardashian wannabe who fearlessly posts her views on ISIS, al-Assad, the US and the conflict that is destroying her homeland
  3. The Best English-speaking Friend Assad Could Ask For, Front and Center on the Net
  4. Australian blogger Syrian Girl posts views on ISIS, US airstrikes, Ebola
  5. The Kardashian wannabe trolling for Assad
  6. To Make Your Conspiracy Theory Legit, Just Find an 'Expert'

There's probably more and these just seemed (at first glance) to be possible reliable sources. There may even be more in non-English. Anyway, I'm posting them here so they can be assessed for reliability and possible inclusion in the article. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:46, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Locked

Why exactly is this sorry stub of an article subject to an editing lock? 2602:301:77B5:26F0:4047:F9B3:891:8403 (talk) 08:03, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The page was protected by administrator CambridgeBayWeather to prevent any further disruption per Wikipedia:Requests for page protection/Rolling archive#Maram Susli. If you would like to request an edit please refer to Wikipedia:Edit requests. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:13, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This article is a clear violation of WP:BLP. All the citations are hostile towards the subject and no neutral or positive one. Has she been convicted of libel or fraud? If not, why should the article be composed solely of criticism? What is the point of the BLP policy if it can't prevent attack articles like this? 2400:4030:9AA3:AC00:C5A4:320A:5B61:5E4 (talk) 08:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but "does videos on topics such as the Syrian Civil War, conspiracy theories and the Gamergate controversy" etc. is well-sourced and neutral. By all means find other comments on her from reliable sources and propose them here. Drmies (talk) 15:23, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

See the two contributions above. The article can not be edited because it is 'protected' against 'vandalism'. For me the actual state of this article is pure vandalism. Francisj. (talk) 13:19, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why is it vandalism? – Nihlus (talk) 19:27, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Observation: When a number of newly-created accounts show up and make the same claim against an article, especially when there are no grounds stated for the claim, it starts to give the appearance that one person is attempting to force their preferred version of the article. —C.Fred (talk) 19:49, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article is clearly biased. It is pretty obvious to see that the person who wrote it has a very onesided view of the topics that Syrian Girl addresses in her blog. Espessialy the situation in Syria. The claim of her being a "conspiracy theorist" is clearly an ad hominem attack. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.76.240.49 (talk) 15:21, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hey everyone, accusations were levelled at myself that I am a "meat puppet". This is absurd as my only interest is improving this article so that it accurately reflects the subject matter. I have not removed any material that has been proven to be correct. I have added legitimate content with citations. I have organised this page such that there is no repetition, and so that it is more readable. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wired article

I believe the Wired article cited in the article still has some value even if the claim that the evidence was de-bunked is removed. The source still mentions that Susli provided the evidence that Postol based his claims on, so it still seems acceptable per WP:RSCONTEXT and I have re-added it. If someone is able to find a better more "neutrally" worded source that avoids any mention of de-bunked, then it can be added. Without any source, however, the entire sentence itself is unverified and contentious, which means it can be removed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:27, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Her video, A Tale of Two Syrian Boys

Was also the video that prompted Trump to take away funding from ISIS. Allanana79 (talk) 18:37, 22 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox image

Please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Images which is pertinent to an error some editors (including myself) have been making. Philip Cross (talk) 07:41, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Lead

The lead as it now stands seems to be a curation of random facts related to her life as if to say "Look at all these naughty things she believes/has done". Obviously this is not ideal for a lead of an article, especially when the material is literally repeated almost word for word in the proceeding paragraphs.Jorge1777 (talk) 14:04, 15 May 2020 (UTC) strike sock-- Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 21:15, 29 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What you consider the "naughty things" are cited to reliable sources and those affiliations have not been contested elsewhere. The other points are also repeated in the main article. Repetition is inevitable in the opening summary. Philip Cross (talk) 12:42, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The lead is full of details which are not in the body. It needs stripping back and the details of which media platforms she has been on etc moved into the body. BobFromBrockley (talk) 14:45, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The citations to her appearances on Australian Sky and Abby Martin's RT series have no other sources on the web and should be removed as non-notable. The same goes for a radio talkshow reference, but as it presented by someone of unimpeachable integrity, I think it should stay. Philip Cross (talk) 15:30, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Two single-purpose accounts seem to be adding anything featuring Susli/al-Laham they can find. Removed the dodgy sources again. The Abby Martin/RT program seems to have especially non-mainstream content. Philip Cross (talk) 20:50, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recent reverts

TomReagan90, what sanitising or censorship are you referring to? What reliably sourced information do you believe has been removed? Konli17 (talk) 17:31, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It is unclear why such minor changes have resulted in an edit war. The article was rearranged but I disagree with TomReagan90 that "lots of reliably sourced material" was removed. CowHouse (talk) 07:53, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Susli's views

Most of Susli's views listed in the article are pretty dubious. However, her opinion of the Syrian rebels is much more mainstream. If it's to be kept, I reckon it ought to be separated from the rest. Konli17 (talk) 19:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

my experience with her

I first got into her from her video about "Why New World Order wants to destroy Syria?" where I commented on her video about following: Syria was last Middle-eastern country with Freedom of Religion (remotely) comparable to Indonesia as well it's also one of Arab-speaking countries whose it's Arabic Dubs of Anime and Cartoons doesn't change it's characters religions from censorship