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Various edits and counteredits to this page have been made regarding the real world historical influences of this historical version of Sinnoh in the game. For some reason people seem to think that the game is set in "feudal Japan" despite none of the citations or sources stating it is and yet the article was protected because of "Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content;" despite none of the sources stating that the game is influenced or inspired by feudal era Japan or Meiji-era Japan. In fact one of the [https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/26/22302977/pokemon-legends-arceus-trailer-switch-sinnoh citations] for this [https://web.archive.org/web/20210226213437/https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/26/22302977/pokemon-legends-arceus-trailer-switch-sinnoh] changed its title to reflect this. --[[User:Rx149|Rx149]] ([[User talk:Rx149|talk]]) 03:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
Various edits and counteredits to this page have been made regarding the real world historical influences of this historical version of Sinnoh in the game. For some reason people seem to think that the game is set in "feudal Japan" despite none of the citations or sources stating it is and yet the article was protected because of "Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content;" despite none of the sources stating that the game is influenced or inspired by feudal era Japan or Meiji-era Japan. In fact one of the [https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/26/22302977/pokemon-legends-arceus-trailer-switch-sinnoh citations] for this [https://web.archive.org/web/20210226213437/https://www.polygon.com/2021/2/26/22302977/pokemon-legends-arceus-trailer-switch-sinnoh] changed its title to reflect this. --[[User:Rx149|Rx149]] ([[User talk:Rx149|talk]]) 03:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:I don't have enough knowledge of old Japan to know the innate differences between feudal era and Meiji era Japan, but I do know there definitely are multiple [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] on this page calling it feudal inspired. Check the references directly following the statement in question; there currently three, all from different publications calling it so. If there are reliable sources calling Meiji era inspired, I have yet to see them. [[WP:USERG|User generated content like YouTube is not considered a reliable source.]] <span style="font-weight:bold;border:1px #8C001A solid;background:#8C001A">[[User:Redsparta|<span style="color:#e52929">redsparta</span>]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Redsparta|<span style="color:#FFFDD0;">talk</span>]]</sup></small></span> 04:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
:I don't have enough knowledge of old Japan to know the innate differences between feudal era and Meiji era Japan, but I do know there definitely are multiple [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] on this page calling it feudal inspired. Check the references directly following the statement in question; there currently three, all from different publications calling it so. If there are reliable sources calling Meiji era inspired, I have yet to see them. [[WP:USERG|User generated content like YouTube is not considered a reliable source.]] <span style="font-weight:bold;border:1px #8C001A solid;background:#8C001A">[[User:Redsparta|<span style="color:#e52929">redsparta</span>]]<small><sup>[[User talk:Redsparta|<span style="color:#FFFDD0;">talk</span>]]</sup></small></span> 04:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
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The reason for this suggested edit is that the portion of text highlighted doesn't directly reflect on '''[[Pokemon Legends: Arceus]]''' or contextualize its development in a notable manner. Instead, it serves as a contextualization of developer '''[[Game Freak]]''' in terms of '''[[Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl]]'''. Additionally, the current phrasing implies that the development of Pokemon Legends: Arceus is a part of the change of norms when it, in fact, reflects the standard conventions of development and is not evidently relevant to the contrasting point being presented. Thank you for your time. [[User:Fact Scanner|Fact Scanner]] ([[User talk:Fact Scanner|talk]]) 10:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC) |
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open world
you know, pokemon themselves havent said its open world... people including journalists are just assuming because of it being an action rpg or whatever... remember when journalists said kasumi from persona 5 royal was a female protag and atlus had to come out and say "she isnt."Muur (talk) 01:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
Open World refers to gating of the map and objectives, it is not yet known if that is the case or not; also Polygon is not a news source, they are a news aggregator and editorial blog. --2600:8801:B005:E00:25C2:1361:A5A9:6FDB (talk) 05:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
- then it should be removed.Muur (talk) 23:43, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
- Polygon is a news source and review source, and is reliable according to WP:VG/RS. If news sources have come to a consensus, it's safe to assume until further information is revealed. Panini
00:14, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
- Polygon is a news source and review source, and is reliable according to WP:VG/RS. If news sources have come to a consensus, it's safe to assume until further information is revealed. Panini
Did you know nomination
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:02, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
- ... that following its announcement, Pokémon Legends: Arceus was compared to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild? Source: Polygon: "people online were quick to compare the game to another incredibly popular Switch game, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild"; Washington Post: 'The game appears to take aesthetic inspiration from “Breath of the Wild,”'
- ALT1: ... that instead of developing the remakes to Pokémon Diamond and Pearl, Game Freak is working on the open world title Pokémon Legends: Arceus instead? Source: DualShockers: "The studio is not developing Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, but they have a good reason – Game Freak will instead be working on a new open-world RPG called Pokemon Legends: Arceus"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rupert Richardson
- Comment: Other hooks are welcome - I'm trying to refrain from adding too much though since a lot will involve Pokémon knowledge that may not be common knowledge. Optionally, this can be a double DYK with the ALT1.
Created by Juxlos (talk). Self-nominated at 02:51, 1 March 2021 (UTC).
- I prefer ALT1 over ALT0, but consider this: ALT2: ... that despite taking place in Pokémon Diamond and Pearl's Sinnoh region, none of the available starter Pokémon in Pokémon Legends: Arceus are from there? Source: Screen Rant: "In fact, it appears that the original Gen 4 starters will be ordinary wild Pokémon." Anarchyte (talk • work) 05:10, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
I think the first hook has the most potential for "hookiness", as it mixes a couple of popular topics, but would recommend a minor GR tweak and a mention of Switch:
- ALT0.1: ... that after Pokémon Legends: Arceus was announced, users pointed out it was very similar to another hit game on the Switch, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild?
Otherwise, all is good to go. Long enough, new enough, well cited, and all of the hooks above are directly cited so the admins can take their pick. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:47, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Game setting historical influences
Various edits and counteredits to this page have been made regarding the real world historical influences of this historical version of Sinnoh in the game. For some reason people seem to think that the game is set in "feudal Japan" despite none of the citations or sources stating it is and yet the article was protected because of "Persistent addition of unsourced or poorly sourced content;" despite none of the sources stating that the game is influenced or inspired by feudal era Japan or Meiji-era Japan. In fact one of the citations for this [1] changed its title to reflect this. --Rx149 (talk) 03:47, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
- I don't have enough knowledge of old Japan to know the innate differences between feudal era and Meiji era Japan, but I do know there definitely are multiple reliable sources on this page calling it feudal inspired. Check the references directly following the statement in question; there currently three, all from different publications calling it so. If there are reliable sources calling Meiji era inspired, I have yet to see them. User generated content like YouTube is not considered a reliable source. redspartatalk 04:23, 6 March 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2021
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Hello. I'd like to suggest the following portion of the Development section be changed from:
Pokémon Legends: Arceus is being developed by Game Freak, a shift from the norms where the studio had been the sole developer of the standard Pokémon role-playing video games, including remakes; ILCA was instead assigned the development of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, the remakes of Diamond and Pearl.
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Pokémon Legends: Arceus is a main-line entry of the Pokemon series being developed by Game Freak for the Nintendo Switch family of systems, a shift from the norms where the studio had been the sole developer of the standard Pokémon role-playing video games, including remakes; ILCA was instead assigned the development of Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl, the remakes of Diamond and Pearl.
The reason for this suggested edit is that the portion of text highlighted doesn't directly reflect on Pokemon Legends: Arceus or contextualize its development in a notable manner. Instead, it serves as a contextualization of developer Game Freak in terms of Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. Additionally, the current phrasing implies that the development of Pokemon Legends: Arceus is a part of the change of norms when it, in fact, reflects the standard conventions of development and is not evidently relevant to the contrasting point being presented. Thank you for your time. Fact Scanner (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC) Fact Scanner (talk) 10:52, 6 March 2021 (UTC)