Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive

Juventus F.C.

Has it won as it meet its target and it has the most votes --Kingjamie 17:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

So far today neither I nor Aabha have been around to update it, but I'll update it now.

Anyone can update it when a new article is to be selected (each Sunday), To select a new AID the following articles need to be updated:

Template:Collab-soccer
Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive/History
Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive
Template:FootballAID
Template:FAIDuser (which should be posted on the user talk page of those who voted in the past week, plus those who voted for the winner)

and ~~Template:FootballAID~~ should be removed from the old collaboration and put on the new one. Oldelpaso 21:04, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That should read Template:FootballIDRIVECurrent, not Template:FootballAID. Oldelpaso 14:45, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've now transcluded the current colloboration onto Template:FAIDuser, if it works properly it shouldn't need manual updating anymore. Oldelpaso 16:41, 24 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't work, the subst'ed template changes. Back to manual updates. Oldelpaso 13:23, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

~~I think I've fixed it, using <includeonly> and <noinclude>. Hope that helps. – Elisson • T • C • 13:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

~~Or no... – Elisson • T • C • 13:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)~~[reply]

I believe I've fixed it now. – Elisson • T • C • 13:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Oldelpaso 13:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please help me to come to Zabihullah Koohkan's article and thank him in the discussion and help develop the article. Zabikn7 (talk) 22:13, 6 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify

If a nomination doesn't get 3 votes in a week, is it deleted from the list? The Bayern Munich Junior/women have been there two days after they needed the three votes, so should I just delete them? King fish erswift 10:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations which do not get the required number of votes should be moved to Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Article improvement drive/Removed Oldelpaso 11:06, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, cheers. King fish erswift 13:47, 12 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Opt-out list

There's a few people for whom I post Template:FAIDuser on their talk page pretty much every week. I guess in these cases they already know about the AID and don't need reminding. So, if you do not wish to have

Thank you for participating in the Football AID vote this week.

Dunga has been selected as this week's collaboration. Please do help in working to improve it.

appearing on your talk page when a new AID is selected, put your name here. Oldelpaso 12:14, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Biography

Let us know if you happen to pick an article on a person and we'll alert our members! plange 05:50, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An inter-project collaboration is a great idea, plange. Ta. Slumgum T. C. 20:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Change to fortnightly?

There has been a general decline in the number of editors working on the current AID each week, and I don't think it is attracting enough attention to justify making a new selection each week. Currently we only have two nominations, of which the leader has only 2 votes, and the current selection has only been worked on by 3 editors thus far. Perhaps the selection should be made fortnightly rather than weekly, thoughts? Oldelpaso 16:17, 20 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should give it a couple of weeks to see if the drought continues, or it could cause some bother if there are a lot of nominations with a fortnightly cleanup. That or all the football articles are now perfect ;). Archibald 99 01:23, 21 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Selection quandary

On the face of it Tobias Linderoth is due to be selected, but User:Dk-fck's only contribution is to make that vote, which strikes me as weird. Removing that vote would result in Tottenham Hotspur F.C. being selected. Oldelpaso 10:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I figured I'd solve the situation by voting for one of the articles myself. Spurs are likely to be a topic of interest to more editors than Linderoth (biographies tend to attract less attention when selected than clubs, unless its someone iconic like Pele), so I voted for Spurs. Oldelpaso 10:45, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Football Stadiums

I've seen quite a few football stadium articles and there isn't much in them. If there are any articles to focus on, it's the stadium articles. Kingjeff 11:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Number of votes needed

Just curious: the articles on Volkswagen Arena, Weserstadion, Åge Hareide, and Michel Platini were nominated on the same week. On their second week, the former three need at least 2 more votes, but the latter, which was nominated after the former three, needs 3 more. Why is this? T.I.A. --ChaChaFut 02:49, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The date is extended by a week for every 3 votes. When Platini got three votes the date was extended, so it will be up for two weeks, whereas the others will be removed after a week if they do not get more votes, note the dates. There's probably a far clearer explanation somwhere else, try the archive. Oldelpaso 19:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stadium articles

It's a shame that the stadium articles I've nominated didn't get enough votes since those are the soccer articles that really need a lot of work on. Kingjeff 19:09, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Old supported artcles

Can people please add this ({{FootballIDRIVEpast}}) to the talk pages of old articles supported by the FootballDRIVE as it tells users which articles have been supported by the FootballDRIVE. Kingjamie 18:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reform

These days articles selected for the Football Article Improvement Drive get very little activity. It might be time to reform the nature of the Improvement Drive. What are people's thought about changes in emphasis? One possibility is making it more task based, e.g. "expand as many national team stubs to beyond stub level as possible", or "add references to articles about Golden Shoe winners". Oldelpaso 20:06, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My sensation is there's no common willing to join forces for improving a single article decided by majority, except of course when the majority is clear, possibly almost unanimous. I would first consider make the AID in a bi-weekly basis, with the goal not to improve article to featured status (that is quite uneasy) but to good one, and possibly without making the AID itself look too UK-centric (a clear majority of AID winners are somewhat related to football in the UK). I wouldn't think a task-based AID would work, mainly because these kind of things can be discussed and coordinated directly by the WikiProject without the need for an AID.

Possible ideas: make it bi-weekly, involving constantly a fixed set of WP users with proven football-related knowledge in the selection process, and considering more concrete parameters within the selection itself (e.g. giving preference to stubs and articles in need of cleanup rather than good or quasi-featured articles). --Angelo 20:40, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I used to do stuff on the Article Improvement drive, I worked on the Michel Platini article. But the way it is now, it really doesn't work. We should change it to every two or three weeks and really have a colaborative effort. For example, we all set a to-do list and every guy works on one thing, or we all work on a big list. We should give direction to our efforts so the union of the editors makes the improvement drive strong. Otherwise, you end up working alone and it's not very satisfying. When you work together and see the articles growing, you also give your best.--Serte ^{[ Talk · Contrib ]} 22:01, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Personally I would rather see this effort being aimed toward articles that are deemed Top priorities for the project. This page could be used to debate what should be on that list. aLii 18:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dweller and User:The Rambling Man have had a lot of success through focusing on one article and working on it until it's FA standard. That's the direction I think the AID should be taking. I know that in some respects it's a bit risky, as if we just have one article hangin indefinetely and no-one contributes then the AID will collapse altogether, but I think it's a more worthwhile project than what we have now, where the AID seems to just do general clean-up. As aLii says, we could focus on important articles - I'd certainly like to get a national team up to scratch so we have a template for the rest. HornetMike 11:23, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

1. cleanup and 2. expansion of stubs should be priorities (not only on this but in every WikiProject). Also we have to make some use of the article assessments to prioritize articles that need work. Based on that, a high-importance stub article should deserve more attention than a Low-importance b-class article, etc. but basically try to balance things out (why, for example, should Peter Crouch deserve a much more extensive article than Jules Rimet???) Another very important thing to do IMHO is that when an article wins the AID it should be mandatory to post a TO DO list on the article's talk page, to guide editors and separate minor tasks. --ChaChaFut 19:06, 26 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A thing I just noted in the AID for this WikiProject: lists are much more likely to be chosen as possible improvement drives rather than "real" articles. As we have an assessment department proposing quality and importance scales for articles associated to this WP, I suggest to take the list of higher-importance articles in a state of stub/start quality, and choose between them. --Angelo 04:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about instead of nominating articles and see if they win, we nominate articles to be listed. Kingjeff 04:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Football club names

The current football collaboration of the week is Football club names. I have proposed an overhaul of the article, including a move and a reformatting, on the article's talk page. Please join the discussion at Talk:Football club names#Suggest restructuring. Cows fly kites (Aecis) ^Rule^/^{Contributions} 11:31, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Byline (soccer) up for deletion

Apparently 'byline' is a lesser known sports term so it's up for AfD here [[1]] Can anyone improve it to improve its chances of retention? Nick mallory 07:45, 1 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Community Portal

This collaboration appears to be inactive so I am removing it from the community portal. If this becomes active again just add it back.--Banana 04:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intertoto Cup expansion

Hello, I am beginning the process of expanding the Intertoto Cup. This is arguably the fourth most important tournament in European football, but very little information in contained in Wikipedia (and almost none before UEFA took over in 1995). My name is initially to complete every year 1961-present with introductions and relevant info, group tables, and scores from the knock-out rounds. I have also done a small amount of correction and addition to the Intertoto Cup page, and set up some key redirects that were not in existence previously. Hopefully by the time this season's tournament ends (in late July) I will have completed this process for all 47 seasons. This is rather fitting, as the Intertoto is being abolished after this year.

My 2 main sources are the RSSSF, and a private page of results (which you can find linked from the RSSSF). Plus my own records and, from 1995, UEFA records. There are far too many uncertainties and errors in the group-stage scores at the moment to include a grid with the scores in beside the tables - also, I feel this if pretty ineffective unless you can provide dates and venues for the games alongside (as happens post-1995). For this reason, I am only including the tables on their own currently.

Once all the seasons are finished, I will create some supplementary pages like 'List of clubs by appearances in the Intertoto Cup', 'Records and Firsts in the Intertoto Cup' and a page on changing formats. All advice to me is very much appreciated. HibeeJibee (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kit for Histon F.C. Article

I'm usually quite a fast learner when it comes to contributing to Wikipedia, but with this one, I'm stuck. I really have no clue how to create kit designs on the article and I was wondering if someone could change the Histon home kit. The home kit looks like this, [2], and was released today in the local newspaper. As far as I know, the shorts and socks are still the same colour, but could someone change the Histon kit to stripes as in the picture on the page? Thanks. Jazza5 (talk) 17:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll tell you how I'd do it... If you click on the existing football kit you go to here, which, in the yellow box, has a link to here. This not only tells you what to do, but also has a list of kits. Choose either a kit with red stripes or black stripes and use the reverse colour as the shirt colour background. _blackstripescollar looks as near as you'd get, from the existing list. slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 23:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]