Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Finance
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- Putra Adhiguna (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find any independent coverage of this BLP. The 15 sources cited in the article are author listings, biography listings, interviews, articles written by the subject, alumni listings, coverage from events, seminars, conferences, summits and more interviews. It is unclear what makes the subject notable or what their contributions are which could be used to assess whether any SNG is met. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 14:57, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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- HDFC securities (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 08:20, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Advanced Technology Development Center (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 02:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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- YL Ventures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Mostly about routine funding. Some info from Techcrunch but notability is limited per WP:TECHCRUNCH. This was previously deleted per AfD before. Imcdc Contact 01:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Aditya Birla Sun Life Asset Management (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:33, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- August Capital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues. Was previously deleted per AFD. Imcdc Contact 03:43, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:NORG and WP:SIRS). QEnigma talk 16:02, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Atlantic-Pacific Capital (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues for years. Imcdc Contact 03:38, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:NORG and WP:SIRS) criteria. QEnigma talk 15:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ibrahim A. Abdullahi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NPOL or WP:GNG. These sources are clear PRs and paid pieces hidden under the umbrella of brown envelope journalism. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 21:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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Delete: A well written article with promotional and puff pieces for the sake of Notability and yet nothing is notable about the subject. Indeed, a look at this this and this is a testament of BEJ Ibjaja055 (talk) 07:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Fails the criteria for politicians as SAs are not inherently notable. Sources does not help to establish the general notability criteria. Best, Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Walden Asset Management (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 10:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - fails SIGCOV. Deriannt (talk) 17:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete All I can find are "company profiles" and non-interesting short pieces about the comings and goings of executives. It is a subsidiary of Boston Trust but we don't have an article for that so there's no redirect or merge target. Lamona (talk) 03:18, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Viola Group (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. This article was AFD before but I don't really agree with the provided sources by the now-blocked user. They don't seem to pass WP:SIRS in my view regarding the subject itself. Another user has tagged this article for multiple issues including notabilit. It also doesn't help this article is created by a suspected paid editor who has 5 out of 6 articles deleted with this being the last one remaining.
I am submitting this article to look at this again given that NCORP requirements are more stringent now. Imcdc Contact 05:48, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as this reads as an advertisement and not an encyclopedic entry. Ktkvtsh (talk) 17:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- PAAMCO (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Had a lot of COI and promotional edits. A quick search focuses only on the subject being part of a merger with another entity so the current subject in article no longer operates under this name. Imcdc Contact 04:45, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete I find company profiles, short articles in business news about executive comings and goings, SEC filings ... in short, nothing independent/nothing significant. It does indeed fail WP:NCORP. Lamona (talk) 03:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Galileo FX (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Entirely promotional and no establishment of WP:SUSTAINED notability. Amigao (talk) 19:00, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Delete - fails WP:NSOFT, sources are self-published PR. Deriannt (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Deriannt What's the relevant WP:Criteria for speedy deletion you wish to use here? Aaron Liu (talk) 01:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- It should have been deleted under CSD #A7 Deriannt (talk) 07:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Deriannt What's the relevant WP:Criteria for speedy deletion you wish to use here? Aaron Liu (talk) 01:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - These are more independent reliable sources that support the notability.
- https://www.g2.com/products/galileo-fx/reviews?utm_source=chatgpt.com
- https://fundevity.com/galileo-fx-review/
- https://www.blockleaders.io/news/galileo-fx-breaks-new-ground-in-crypto-trading-accuracy
- https://investingrobots.com/galileo-fx-review/
- https://burnettreviews.com/galileo-fx-review-myfxbook-settings/
- https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbesfinancecouncil/2024/11/14/four-simple-ways-to-build-a-sustainable-trading-strategy/
- https://councils.forbes.com/profile/David-Materazzi-CEO-Galileo-FX/3492296d-b25d-47cd-914b-3a7d80386fdb
- https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/europes-banks-brace-tougher-competition-under-trump-20-2024-11-08
- Waswau (talk) 20:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Forbes Council links aren't a reliable source, the rest are trivial mentions, PR items or blogs. None of these show notability. Oaktree b (talk) 21:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Sources are news wires, PR items and Forbes Council pages. Nothing showing this is a notable item, appears to be PROMO. I can't find anything that's a RS we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 21:11, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Reuters source is just a brief mention, the others don't meet WP:RS criteria for establishing notability. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: Sources are weak, promotional, and lack WP:SIGCOV; the subject fails to meet notability guidelines. GrabUp - Talk 22:41, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Oaktree. Aaron Liu (talk) 01:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Top Third Ventures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for notability issues for years. Imcdc Contact 10:22, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Astra Tech (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Blatant advertisement. Only coverage is press releases/companies announcements. No secondary coverage. Probable COI. Fails WP:NCORP. Bakhtar40 (talk) 09:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment @Bakhtar40: if it's blatant advertisement, it would be eligible for CSD G11 Unambiguous advertising or promotion. Killarnee (talk) 10:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Killarnee, You might be right. Since it was already marked as afd. How can we move it to the G11 standards now? Bakhtar40 (talk) 13:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- AfD is superior to SD, so we should wait for the outcome of the AfD. I also did not mean that it is blatant advertising, but only what would be appropriate if it is so. Killarnee (talk) 10:56, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Killarnee, You might be right. Since it was already marked as afd. How can we move it to the G11 standards now? Bakhtar40 (talk) 13:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- J.P. Turner & Company (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Tagged for multiple issues for years. Firm is defunct. Was previously deleted under a different name. Imcdc Contact 04:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: The company fails WP:NCORP and WP:ORGCRIT. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 12:06, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Unable to find any coverage showing that WP:NCORP is met. Let'srun (talk) 20:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Brysam Global Partners (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 06:05, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Armed Forces Insurance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I did wp before, but was not able to locate reliable sources meeting NCORP. Ready to withdraw the nomination if the reliable sources are found and added NiftyyyNofteeeee (talk) 08:44, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- American Share Insurance (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Actually not meeting NCORP; I did we before however it did not help. NiftyyyNofteeeee (talk) 08:48, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Gregory J. Blotnick (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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It's unclear to me why this man's fraud conviction makes him notable. There were many people who committed PPP fraud and while large, his is not the largest or most well reported. I see a smattering of reporting, of the routine kind of reporting you usually see that is rewritten SEC or DOJ press releases.
Furthermore, I don't see how he is notable for his finance activities prior to his conviction.
This article seems to promote the man in a strange kind of way. I am concerned about the potential COI nature of this articles creation as well, because the Wikidata item for this page/person, Gregory Blotnick (Q131440997) is being actively edited by wikidata:User:Gregory J. Blotnick so shortly after creation. William Graham talk 05:35, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - I wish that fraud and misprision, my two least favorite crimes, were crimes that would automatically make a perpetrator notable, but that has not been consensus since 2007. Bearian (talk) 05:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I think it can be edited to remove some sources and info but after seeing sources such as, The Palm Beach Post, Business Insider, www.justice.gov, Dealbreaker, which are already cited on Wikipedia for multiple notable entities, the page can be kept. It also passes general criteria of notability as per WP:GNG. I can help editing. NatalieTT (talk) 18:10, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep article gained full notoriety, as it is an important case with a properly licensed work. It is not a template. It appears to comply with WP:GNG. so keep. 190.219.101.225 (talk) 05:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)WP:BOLD strikeout as a suspected sockpuppet of Alon9393. Geschichte (talk) 08:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)- Keep There are articles about him in reliable sources like Bloomberg, Newsweek, Miami Herald, NJ and National Law Review.Kwftnlf (talk) 05:14, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Meets notability guidelines. Firecat93 (talk) 06:44, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Joseph Zubretsky (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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WP:BLP of a health insurance executive, not adequately sourced as passing inclusion criteria for businesspeople. As always, health insurance CEOs are not automatically notable enough for Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to be shown to pass WP:GNG on coverage that's substantively about them and their work, but the referencing here isn't really cutting it: the best sources are two short blurbs published on the same day announcing his initial hiring for the job, which aren't substantive enough to get him over GNG all by themselves, while the rest of the footnotes comprise a press release self-published by his company (which isn't an independent source), an industry trade newsletter that isn't a GNG-worthy publication, and three articles that aren't about him in any non-trivial sense, but just glancingly namecheck him in the process of being principally about the overall phenomenon of how much insurance executives are getting paid.
Further, the information about his annual financial compensation over several years is a bit of a BLP minefield, especially in the wake of last week's shooting -- the amount that a person gets paid is not grounds for a Wikipedia article in and of itself, but that appears to be this article's primary concern.
Simply existing as an insurance CEO, regardless of how much money he is or isn't making, is not "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be the principal subject of more GNG-worthy coverage about him and his work than this article is showing. Bearcat (talk) 01:19, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - WP:BLP1E - If the Brian Thompson murder had not happened, it is unlikely Zubretsky would be eligible for his own article. As is, it reads like an unremarkable resume. The same career background and compensation is not that out of line in corporate executive salaries. — Maile (talk) 02:27, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Also, the mention in the article, "While at Aetna, Zubretsky increased telecommuting for employees as a way to save on office and real estate costs." Maybe so, but this was already the going trend in corporate America about the time he started doing that. — Maile (talk) 04:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I mean, this is well-sourced. A "Run of the mill CEO article" isn't exactly routine, there aren't thousands of health-care CEOs, he's one of a handful... A company of this size is akin to General Motors or Enron, so the CEO would be notable. Oaktree b (talk) 03:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well-sourced how, if the only footnotes that actually represent real media outlets writing about him are both short blurbs? Bearcat (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- That's generally at least enough for a stub article. We have confirmation of employment at a large healthcare enterprise. Oaktree b (talk) 14:01, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Well-sourced how, if the only footnotes that actually represent real media outlets writing about him are both short blurbs? Bearcat (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: There's enough in terms of sourcing to justify this article's existence. I'm less than keen on Wikipedia being party to a naming-and-blaming campaign, but we're not censored. I created an article on a corporate executive that survived an AfD (Ted Decker) and this is article's subject is vaguely reminiscent of that. ~ Pbritti (talk) 04:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Also this profile in a newspaper [1]. There are mentions of his name in newspapers back to 2007 with Aetna, he's had a long business career. Oaktree b (talk) 14:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Well yes, some sources are good. NatalieTT (talk) 18:26, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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