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Hakol Over Habibi

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:BLP1E. Source search only shows unreliable sources or brief mentions in reliable sources, and is only notable for their appearance in the Eurovision Song Contest in 1981 (going off the article and sources) and have almost no coverage besides that, can't find anything related to the alleged albums in the article.

Not to mention it's a BLP without any references or external links, which makes it eligible for BLP PRODing. —Sparkle and Fade ^talk_edits 08:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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West of Scotland Schools Symphony Orchestra

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Last AfD was 17 years ago and no consensus. I'm not seeing any extensive coverage to meet GNG or WP:BAND. LibStar (talk) 18:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Amaire Johnson

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Another case of a songwriter with prolific credits with notable musicians, but who has received little to no coverage of their own. In this case, there is that Visionary Artist Magazine (source I've never heard of and cannot speak to its reliability) piece, though I can only see the first paragraph of it for some reason. But that alone is not a sufficient amount of coverage, and the rest is just Johnson's name being brought up in the context of credits on other artists' songs without any in-depth discussion of Johnson's contributions. None of this applies to NBAND's standards. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 13:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Associated with major acts, but nothing strictly about this individual. The NPR and CBC articles are about different people. I'm not seeing enough for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sam McCandless

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Been sitting in the unclear notability pile for 10+ years now, and it cites only one source that doesn't help for NBIO or GNG. There's one mag profile that doesn't go into much real depth but I guess could help, but I couldn't find anything else. WP:BANDMEMBER is pretty clear that members don't automatically inherit notability from the band, so I don't see a NMUSIC pass either. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 06:14, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Cold (band). Plasuible redirect and it appears to be the only band he released music with. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 07:50, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zorch

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seems to fail gng by... a lot. according to a previous afd, they might be notable, but the complete lack of sources, inappropriate external links (why myspace?), and the fact that results have become an unusable mush of miscellaneous companies, cryptobro jargon, pizzerias, and chex quest jokes lead me to believe that a tnt is due, and there's only a chance that it will get recreated consarn _{(formerly cogsan)} 18:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Clearly fails all criteria on NMusician. No evidence of passing GNG either, I can't find any evidence of the existence of the band in major English or Ameican press.

Noah ^💬 23:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DJ Colastraw

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All the sources fail WP:GNG and 12 criteria for WP:MUSICBIO. Ibjaja055 (talk) 16:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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- Delete per nom, clear failure of MUSICBIO and I cannot find any sources online that lead me to believe that the subject may pass GNG.
Noah ^💬 23:20, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: appears PROMO as well. No news sources or any non-primary sourcing used in the article. I don't find anything extra we can use. Oaktree b (talk) 22:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Awesome name, but sadly this is a WP:RESUME. Nate • (chatter) 00:17, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails NMUSIC and article reads like a resume. Sources are either primary or press releases. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 04:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Total failure of WP:NMUSICBIO, reads entirely like a promotional article. JeffSpaceman (talk) 12:59, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Monk (hardcore punk band)

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:MUSIC per my search for sources. PK650 (talk) 14:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Band has released music on Dine Alone Records, a notable Canadian record label. Labelmates include Jimmy Eat World, Wintersleep, and formerly Marylin Manson. See: https://dinealonerecords.com/artists

Band has toured with originators of the 'hardcore punk' genre D.O.A., Single Mothers, and collaborated with Daniel Romano, Liam Cormier - all notable musicians.

Band has been covered by notable media in their respective genre, like New Noise: https://newnoisemagazine.com/interviews/interview-frank-bach-of-monk-talks-rock-ep and No Echo: https://www.noecho.net/band-spotlights/monk-hardcore-band Zxmxbxm (talk) 18:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Aydan Baston

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No sign of notability from sources listed, and no further sources to meet WP:GNG. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:18, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Elvenking (band), the band he's a member of, which could have been boldly done. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Elvenking (band). No indication of signifiance for a BLP. scope_creep^Talk 17:37, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bruse Wane

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Insufficient reliable and independent sources to establish Notability. The article also fails the 12 criteria of WP:Music. I would have send it to draft but I discovered that four or five drafts have been abandoned before under different names. Ibjaja055 (talk) 09:06, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment This article is properly written and sourced. It is sourced with numerous independent references. Why has it been cited for deletion over the thousands of articles on wikipedia that are no where even as close to being as properly sourced with independent references as this one. People Being Malicious just for the sake of being Malicious needs to be stopped. Edward Myer (talk) 09:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There is a reason earlier drafts of this article were rejected. Bruse Wayne is a serial collaborator who has indeed been mentioned in reliable sources, but almost always in conjunction with the main artists who utilized him as a one-time guest. He has some interviews asking his opinion on rap history because he's been around for a long time, but those do not illustrate his individual notability as a recording artist. I can find no reliable reviews for his solo works. The article also says that he is a member of Mantronix, but if so he joined decades after their glory days, he is not mentioned at their article, and a search indicates that he again only appeared as a guest on one song. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 16:36, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - fails WP:MUSIC. Deriannt (talk) 17:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No valid secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete No notable discography, charting or label activity. Known more for his connection to notable rappers than his own work, the puffery in the article notwithstanding. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 06:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This page should not be deleted. Earlier drafts were deleted because of editing mistakes. This article is conise and accurate. The subjects notability has been shown via numerous independent references, and sourcing. The subject has worked with and released music with Kurtis Mantronik who is a considered and Icon in Hip Hop and Pop Music. That alone make the subject notable. The article should not be deleted. The impact of his own musical works has also been established in the article. Do read again. Edward Myer (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Edward Myer WP:BLUDGEON. Copypaste spam also removed. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 23:15, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Viktorija Faith

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This artist is too little known both in Lithuania and abroad. She has only 110 monthly listeners on Spotify, her songs have quite a few views on YouTube. The only thing interesting for Wikipedia is that she participated in the Lithuanian Eurovision selection several times, but she took last places there. In general, it seems that this article was written by someone from her environment. Balandėliai (talk) 20:01, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Last place in a TV show isn't notable... No charted singles, no album reviews. This is not a notable singer. Sources used are largely confirmation of the TV show. Oaktree b (talk) 21:08, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete I've added a reference for a stage adaptation but it's a 'passing mention'. I've also taken a look at her acting career and nearly all her appearances are uncredited. Doesn't appear to fulfill WP:NMG or WP:GNB. Knitsey (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fails both WP:SINGER and WP:NACTOR. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 14:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aleksandra Fontaine

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Out of 11 references provided, YouTube, IMDb (2), Personal website(2) (fontainemedia, as mentioned in the article) (2). Except for ref 10, none of the rest 4 refs mention the subject. Subject fails the basic criteria (WP:BASIC) for all 8 mentioned professional including WP:NACTOR and WP:ENTERTAINER. ANU^writes 04:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep and improve (with cuts). There is https://www.lindependant.fr/2024/08/21/des-artistes-en-villegiature-chez-aleksandra-12152552.php https://www.lindependant.fr/2023/11/19/aleksandra-kedzierska-a-la-mediatheque-11590278.php https://dziennikpolski24.pl/z-paryskiego-lido-do-variete-w-krakowie/ar/3939301, https://www.leparisien.fr/culture-loisirs/dans-les-pyrenees-orientales-lebouriffante-galerie-dart-dune-ancienne-danseuse-du-lido-02-08-2021-QFFJSIB55RFHRDFND7JBA6WETY.php https://www.lindependant.fr/2022/12/23/saint-laurent-de-cerdans-aleksandra-kedzierska-signe-son-3e-roman-tombe-lombre-10886548.php https://lepetitjournal.com/varsovie/communaute/aleksandra-fontaine-lido-doublure-margaret-qualley-substance-399242 and https://kultura.onet.pl/wywiady-i-artykuly/aleksandra-kedzierska-fontaine-ciagle-jestem-glodna-nowych-wrazen/p3xmxx5 for example. She does seem to meet the requirements for notability. -Mushy Yank. 07:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mushy Yank I hope you're suggesting the article should be returned to draftspace for improvement, as it can not stand in the mainspace the way it is right now. I still think It should be deleted. ANU^writes 08:31, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I am not, I am clearly suggesting it should be kept.AfDs are for deletion not for cleanup and we are only discussing the notability of the subject not the state of the page. Feel free to improve it if you wish. -Mushy Yank. 12:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We do not leave any article with such unverified claims or references as this article just because the topic has references on web, we have draftspace for improvement or deletion if the subject doesn't even deserve draftspace opportunity. This subject deserves nothing than to be deleted. ANU^writes 00:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No. If you want the page to be improved, again, feel free. Feel free to remove everything you find potentially harmful or libellous. I've provided some sources, you can use them. You submitted this to the community. If consensus is to keep it, it will be kept, if it is to drafifty, it will be moved to draft, if it is to delete, it will be deleted, and so on. Your own opinion was clear from the start by the mere fact you nominated it and by your rationale. If you didn't want others to voice opinions that differ from yours, you shouldn't have nominated this article to AfD. I will leave it at that. Thank you very much. -Mushy Yank. 01:21, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so sorry if any of my answers offended you in any ways, I'm just trying to discuss what I think is right and everyone is doing so. Angain, all I want for the page is for it to be taken down not improved that's why I requested it's deletion, it has nothing to improve based on reasons I provided, thank you. Again I'm humbly sorry if I offended you in any way, I don't intend to offend any valuable editor in here. ANU^writes 01:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. No offense taken. But my point is precisely that I think (and apparently I am not the only one) that there is something to improve. I'll do it, then. -Mushy Yank. 01:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources coverage identified in this discussion which together shows a pass of WP:GNG so that deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 00:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since you pointed out WP:GNG, can you get back to the article and point any two reliable sources? ANU^writes 00:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
if the sources are presented here, I would tend to think that asking someone to locate them in the article is not very useful. Anyway, I have added them to the page. -Mushy Yank. 02:03, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per above Mushy Yank's. MPian (talk) 20:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Passes GNG. WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Adequate sources have been provided to show the subject meets GNG. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Important note: This article have more than four reasons to be deleted.

- WP:COI issue, several claims in the article are written by someone with a close alias to the subject, You can't find and source mentioning them (i.e career and biography), that's why such a short article is asked to verify 8 claims to show where such claims came from, even with all sources in the article or additional sources provided by @Mushy Yank, none can prove those claims or is wikipedia a gossip hub now?

- For entertainers, they should have any notable work or achievement, well, the subject is an actress, choreographer and dancer, what are her important achievements of her career (i.e any notable film or show) or maybe accomplishments such as awards and accordance. Does she have any? If she doesn't have any achievement or work mentioned or seen, why is she considered important to keep this article?

- @Mushy Yank proved her notability through references from the web and not personal blogs, youtube links that were used as references in the article. Should we accept terrible articles because we believe subjects might be notable somehow in the web, What's the point of having draftspace and sandboxes?

- The article fails even WP:BASIC, 90% of references in the article are not reliable, any editor can inspect and get that in minutes. i.e self published pdfs, personal blogs, YouTube links, podcast interviews e.t.c.

- Let's be honest here, with all Polish references, isn't the article suitable in Polish wikipedia? Most of EnWiki readers have understanding of Enlang and expect to verify claims from EnEng sources, that's the point of having multi-lang wikis. This wikipedia isn't for her maybe when she becomes global sensation. Inshort, she isn't notable but a local artist, with first and second references proving she's now heading to perform out there for the first time from local venues. Deletion is so crucial here.ANU^writes 01:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kindly unbold your !vote. You are the nominator and you are already considered "!voting" delete and !voting twice is not permitted. Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 01:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you ANU^writes 01:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

- COI is supposed to be addressed through editing, not deletion. Again, WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP.

- No, that's not how notability works. Entertainers can pass either GNG or NENT. They don't have to pass both.

- This is something that should be addressed through editing, not deletion. The article isn't so terrible that TNT is warranted.

- This is a complete misunderstanding of WP:BASIC. Please read it carefully. Again, the terrible sources are an issue that should be addressed through editing, not deletion.

- No, that's not how notability works. Please read through WP:GNG. Sources of any and all languages count for notability as long as they are independent, reliable and provide SIGCOV. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 11:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This article has significantly changed since its AfD nomination. -Mushy Yank. 02:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: please note that the nominator seems to admit that the subject's notability is "proven". If that is helpful, I am inviting the nominator to read WP:AFDNOTCLEANUP.-Mushy Yank. 02:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, the nominator did not admit anywhere that the subject's notability is "proven". This user is trying to play the insinuating card. The nominator gave 5 cold facts as to why the subject is never notable which stand unchallenged. ANU^writes 05:32, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
!!.....Just read what you yourself wrote..."Mushy Yank proved her notability through references from the web and not personal blogs"...... So no, this user is not "trying to play the insinuating card" (:D). I've tried to improve the page, by the way and you're very welcome. At this point, I have no further comments. -Mushy Yank. 07:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caleigh Peters

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Does not meet notability for musicians, or actresses. No coverage at all. No reliable sources. The article would never have passed the creation discussion if there was one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moondust534 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete The nomination templates are wonky and it won't accept my comments using Twinkle... I dont' see notability, and this is the only source found [1]. Not quite at notability. Oaktree b (talk) 20:41, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
seems to have been because it was unsigned consarn _{(formerly cogsan)} 20:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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comment The AfD template on the article was wrong; I replaced it using a sample from another article so that it at least links from the article to this nomination page but the timestamp might not be accurate. (The example I pasted had 5 numbers for time, I didn't know what to do with that.) Schazjmd (talk) 21:07, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, or redirect to Jon Peters. There just isn't the significant coverage to support a stand-alone article, not via WP:NSINGER or WP:ANYBIO. Closest I found was a 1994 newspaper article, which had several paragraphs on Caleigh, but was mostly about Barbra.[2] Schazjmd (talk) 21:22, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is a glorified CV. No secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:57, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Blade

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Nominated on behalf of a non-autoconfirmed user claiming to be the article subject:

Does not meet Wikipedia criteria for notability BladeTerry (talk) 01:09, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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I am the subject of this article, Terry Blade.
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I am the subject of this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Blade. I don't think it meets the notability criteria for an article on Wikipedia. The article is semi-protected. I'd like to request that an editor nominate it for deletion please? BladeTerry (talk) 01:04, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
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Keep. There are enough sources here to merit an article per WP:GNG. The context of this AFD attempt is that I created a sockpuppet case page at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Roberteditor, tying together a bunch of IPs and some socks that have been editing the Terry Blade bio and related pages. Two hours and change later, User:BladeTerry registered the username to delete the bio. My guess is that the history of socking is what BladeTerry wants deleted. Binksternet (talk) 08:31, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Not the best quality article for sure, and some of the cited sources are better than others. But based on WP:BLP, Blade seems to meet the criteria of having multiple reliable independent sources. Him not wanting an article isn't a criteria for BLP. guninvalid (talk) 11:15, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I referenced the wrong part of BLP, my bad, but my argument still stands. Whether he likes it or not, this guy is a WP:PUBLICFIGURE and should be treated as one. If there are specific allegations or specific sections of the article that are undercited, those can be removed. But blanket removing the article in whole is inexcusable. guninvalid (talk) 02:29, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. The article has a ton of problems, and Binksternet fixed many of them some time back with me trying to assist. The real question is simply "does he pass WP:GNG?" and I have to say yes, he does, although barely, as demonstrated by the sources, and the claim of winning the American Songwriting contest. If the subject of the article can be verified as the editor who wants it deleted, I would probably be ok deleting it because it isn't a slam dunk on notability, and we have a long history of respecting the subject's wishes with borderline notability cases. 14.1.92.185 (talk) 09:44, 23 December 2024 (UTC) (aka: Dennis Brown, trying to take a wikibreak logged out but reading my talk page....)[reply]
Keep. The article could be improved, but agree with the consensus that subject is notable per WP:GNG, WP:NMUSIC No.1 and No. 9. Beyond what's cited in the article, this Earmilk article about the subject is one of the first listed on Google. Dug further and see the subject in a past issue of New Music Weekly, listed on page 33 under the "Country Up & Coming" chart, which is evidence he might also be notable per No. 11 of WP:NMUSIC. Rainydaywindows (talk) 16:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jms Brynt

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Very minor, likely non-notable SoundCloud/Bandcamp musician. Based off the sources, the article probably meets WP:SIGCOV, however these are articles which themselves either imply that the subject is not notable or only note that the artist has released music. For example, the Earmilk source describes him as an "artist to watch". Waddles 🗩 🖉 00:02, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - GoodMusicRadar doesn't have any author credits or seemingly that much info on the ownership, Earmilk appear to be a more professional operation and there was an article on it until literally a few days ago, the Cultr piece lists an author with no bio and I can find no info on the ownership on site (if anyone knows if its reliable, please tell) Iostn (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kevin Kade

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non-notable musician, sourced entirely to blackhat SEO and the same "source". GRINCHIDICAE🎄 16:55, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep, There's reporting on him from The New Times and so I added it in and he seems like a notable musician in Rwanda. He has a good career as a musician being both a solo artist and being reported by The New Times is very remarkable. Vikingsam (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The New Times is giving me pause; it feels like the coverage in Indian or Nigerian media, where it seems everyone is a superstar, but no one else bothers to report on their accomplishments. Way too many hits in the one newspaper for this to be a coincidence... Feels like a PROMO. I'm happy to be proven incorrect, but that's the impression I'm getting. Oaktree b (talk) 21:35, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment (I already !voted keep above) I think this hinges on if The New Times is a reliable source. I honestly don't know. Here's what I can ascertain:

It's the first listed newspapers on BBC for Rwanda newspapers https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-14093244
The Wikipedia article and the BBC note it's proximity to government
Of course, plenty reliable sources are proximate to government, BBC, CBC, Al Jazeera, although I would suggest The New Times is not a reliable source for Rwandan politics.
The Wikipedia WP:RSPSS noticeboard is silent on The New Times. A search of the archive reveals nothing.

So my question is: does anyone have any evidence, any reason to assume it's a bad source? Vikingsam (talk) 11:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Joseph Fitzmartin

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In my WP:BEFORE I couldn't find any significant coverage in reliable sources. Much of the coverage that there was was related to the subject's role as musical director of the Keystone State Boychoir, and only passing mention at that. I couldn't find any critical reviews of the Concert Mass that is referred to in the article, although its premiere was at Carnegie Hall [3]. I therefore propose that the notability bar is not met, and that the content should be merged into the Keystone State Boychoir article (not that that itself is without problems!) with a Redirect from this article. SunloungerFrog (talk) 23:20, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Merge to KSB. There's nothing distinguishable in there to separate him from the group and thus warrant his own article. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 04:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No secondary sourcing to prove WP:GNG.TitCrisse (talk) 03:14, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Yet another article on a musician who has done literally nothing notable to pass WP:NMUSICIAN. Sources from here and a cursory search suggests nothing useful. They're either interviews with the subject, or routine coverages that are entirely dependent on the subject. This is, as usual, a properly written article from the author on a non-notable musician to pretend notability. Also, the TurnTable Certification System of Nigeria is dubious in its entirety. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 12:42, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Most of the sources are either puff pieces that are meant to confer notability on him or interviews. Ibjaja055 (talk) 21:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Has written more than one major hit record, automatically meets WP:COMPOSER, just like a scriptwriter or director who has directed multiple award-winning movies. Even if he doesn't pass GNG, but passes WP:FILMS, he automatically establishes notability. Likewise he passes WP:ANYBIO, with a special recognition from The Recording Academy as a composer. One last thing, I would say the coverage for example [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], add up to a GNG pass, with an extensive list of production and songwriting credits from "No Girlfriend No Problem", "Away", "One Side", "Yawa No Dey End", "My Baby", and many more.--Afí-afeti (talk) 09:35, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Per my comment.--Afí-afeti (talk) 08:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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