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21 August 2010
Suspected sockpuppets


Evidence submitted by Christopher Thomas

Added this essay to ultimate fate of the universe (and its talk page). This is contains elements suspiciously similar to the essay that indef-blocked user Systemizer (talk · contribs) kept inserting into physics articles. Common elements are comments to the effect that blue-shifting will reduce a proton's wavelength below the Planck length, causing some great change in the nature of the universe. Checkuser is the simplest, fastest way to check to see whether or not User:Weltherr is evading a block (they might just be another person quoting the same external crank theory). Christopher Thomas (talk) 20:38, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by accused parties   

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Comments by other users
Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

 Clerk declined:  Looks like a duck to me. Elockid (Talk) 02:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

information Administrator note That being said. Blocked and tagged. Elockid (Talk) 02:11, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

20 January 2011
Suspected sockpuppets

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They edit the same type of OR into physics articles like Negentropy,Speed of gravity and One-electron universe and also edit articles Terence McKenna and Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. 89.110.14.26 made a typical edit to Action at a distance (physics) after Antichristos was banned for 72 hours. The other ips made edits between when Systemizer was blocked and Antichristos started up. Dmcq (talk) 23:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I notice also that User:Weltherr, a short-term suspected sockpuppet of Systemizer, edited Negentropy which was edited by Antichristos. The ip 89.110.4.94 only edited the two unusual articles Omega point and One-electron universe which are two shared by Antichristos and Systemizer. Dmcq (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We now have 91.122.1.73 coming along looking like Antichristos and sticking up for Antichristos as if they were a different person at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Physics Dmcq (talk) 13:24, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ugh I'm starting to think anything in the ips 89.110.*.* 91.122.*.* 92.100.*.* could possibly be them especially if they start mentioning compton wavelength. Dmcq (talk) 13:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by other users

Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims.

See also this recent revert by 91.122.93.63. I have reverted. The article Action at a distance (physics) might need semiprotection as well. DVdm (talk) 18:52, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

95.55.115.125 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) and
91.122.6.123 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
(from September) also look like the same user, they have been editing similar pages to Antichristos. 91.122.6.123 also edited Mechanical explanations of gravitation; this page was eventually reverted due to original research and undue weight to non-mainstream POV after edits from
91.122.80.83 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)),
89.110.6.2 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)),
89.110.19.187 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) and
89.110.14.210 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 19:48, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another revert without comment at Thesis, antithesis, synthesis and a string of 10 edits by a currently blocked person with an apparently non-blocked IP:

95.55.112.204 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))

Perhaps the articles should indeed be semi-protected. DVdm (talk) 13:30, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another IP has recently been active at WT:PHYS ([1], [2]), continuing old arguments where 95.55.112.204 left off:

91.122.87.244 (talk ·  · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))

I've tried archiving the thread. Neither the IP editor nor the person he's arguing with appear to have noticed, and it's becoming disruptive through sheer volume on that page. --Christopher Thomas (talk) 22:01, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the semi-protection; just be aware that longer protections would have collateral damage problems, as there's at least one long-term IP editor who makes valuable contributions but for whatever reason does not wish to create an account. --Christopher Thomas (talk) 23:46, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other similarities are the interest of Systemizer and Antichristos in "instantaneous transmission" of information, e.g. [3] and [4] by Systemizer; [5] by Antichristos. Note that the phrase "instantaneous transmission" occurs only four times in WP article-space: [6].
Another peculiarity of both is the use of diamonds "♦" in the references added to articles, e.g. [7] by Systemizer and [8] by Antichristos. -- Crowsnest (talk) 14:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clerk, CheckUser, and/or patrolling admin comments

I'm not sure CU would do any good here since Systemizer hasn't edited in 7 months. They certainly share a fondness for crackpot physics and edit in similar areas. I can't see an occasion where Antichristos has edited an article previously edited by Systemizer, though. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note for clerks: Antichristos is currently blocked for edit warring and block evasion and all the IPs above are rangeblocked in my attempt to prevent further block evasion, so there's no need to block any of them. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 23:30, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

information Administrator note I blocked 91.122.0.0/21 for the remainder of the block. The 92.100 IP hasn't edited in months so isn't worth blocking, but would seem to fit the pattern. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 16:41, 21 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The set of additional IPs from 95.* and elsewhere that were just added by User:Physics is all gnomes are not active since September, though they help to complete the picture. EdJohnston (talk) 02:18, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]