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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:53, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Allan Cerda → Cincinnati Reds minor league players#Allan Cerda  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Cerda is not listed as a player on the team, and according to his MLB profile, he has played for several teams, so I'm not sure what the best redirect would be. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 04:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete No longer plays for Reds and not notable for stand alone article.-- Yankees10 15:22, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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*Delete Same reasoning as before. Not sure why this wasn't deleted before re-listing.-- Yankees10 18:51, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete. The user is better served by Search. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:51, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Disambiguate Misbehaviour/Misbehavior, Delete Ill-behaved. Thryduulf (talk) 11:48, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Misbehaviour → Behavior  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Misbehavior → Behavior  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Ill-behaved → Behavior  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]

Not actually helpful redirects. The reader expects a description of, well, bad behaviour, but instead is redirected to a page that describes "behaviour" in general and doesn't describe misbehaviour in the sense of a kid pulling the cat's tail. Misbehaviour isn't actually the antonym of "behaviour" here, even though it sounds like one. The behaviour article discusses behaviour in its broadest biological and societal sense. Soft redirection to wiktionary seems the best option here. Cremastra (talk) 19:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak disambiguate misbehavior/misbehaviour the only entries which strictly meet MOS:DAB are Misbehavior (film) and Misbehaviour (film), and various WP:DABMENTIONs (e.g. songs on Behaviour (Saga album) and Come of Age), but there's a whole bunch of stuff that would go in WP:DABSEEALSO: Missbehavior, Misbehaving (disambiguation), a {{wiktionary}} link, and closely-related concepts like acting out or misconduct or anti-social behavior which just barely fail MOS:DABSYNONYM (they mention "rebellious behavior", "behavior which is unacceptable", etc., though never strictly use the word "misbehavior"). Perhaps a bit of a WP:IAR but it seems better to disambiguate than move both films to their base titles and put giant hatnotes on them. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 02:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - Firstly, I want to point out that, rather than Behavior, since the term "misbehavior" is generally understood to refer to Human behavior, that should probably be the proper redirect target. Just one problem: to my astonishment, there is no mention of misbehavior in that article. Surely there should be at least a full section there! I also checked out the articles about Misconduct and Deviance (sociology), but neither of them is truly appropriate. Wish I had a good answer! Oh btw, I removed the "antonym" reference before I came to this discussion. Anomalous+0 (talk) 01:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  This has just been noticed at Talk:Behavior#Proposal to create behavioural problem section or page too. Seems quite an oversight, when the science and attention to covering “behavioral problems”—especially in children—is so big. — HTGS (talk) 22:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Disambiguate the first two per 59.149. Delete Ill-behaved. J947 ‡ ^edits 02:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment drafted dab at Misbehaviour. But without further work (e.g. adding relevant section to one or more of the articles in "See also" so that those articles could be listed in the main section of the dab), after this discussion is closed someone else may eventually come along and dispute the existence of the dab page by proposing that the film articles be moved to the base titles. 59.149.117.119 (talk) 07:45, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Agree with J947. Disambig at Misbehaviour per IP's draft, and Delete Ill-behaved as the dab will not be a suitable target for it. Jay 💬 10:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Path dependence. ✗plicit 14:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Independence of Path → Conservative force  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• Path independent → Nonholonomic system  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• Path independence → Path dependence  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

These should presumably point at the same target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• harmonize all to Path dependence -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:29, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 11:55, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Gilbert (Suikoden) → Suikoden#Suikoden II  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Valeria (Suikoden) → Suikoden#Valeria  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Viki (Suikoden) → Suikoden#Viki  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]
• Viki(Suikoden) → Suikoden#Viki  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ]

None of these are mentioned at the target. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Viki(Suikoden) because there's no space between the title and the disambiguator. Unsure on the rest, though—they may not be mentioned, but as SnowFire says in the huge nomination below, the list of characters may be brought back with independent sourcing. I think these three should share the same fate as those in the huge nomination two nominations below this one (I am open to being swayed otherwise, though). Regards, SONIC678 06:29, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just tagged Viki(Suikoden) with {{Db-x3}}. Steel1943 (talk) 02:56, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• The closing admin should take note of some of the comments at #Unmentioned Suikoden characters that may also apply here. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but my arguments are in the other "Unmentioned Suikoden characters". Just seemed inefficient to rewrite this in several places and these used to all be on the same page, but I guess one was relisted without the other. Delete Viki(Suikoden) per Sonic678. SnowFire (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Viki(Suikoden) has already been deleted under X3. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete these misleading redirects, which imply the existence of content we don't have. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all per WP:RSURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 23:37, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Leib#Surnames derived from the name. Refining to the section title. While we're here, there's a slight preference for the section title being used over an anchor. (non-admin closure) Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 22:01, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Surnames from the name Leib → Leib  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

deletion requested, the target doesn't contain any surnames from the name Leib but only lists persons with the surname Leib. One would expect derived surnames like Leibovich, Leibovitz, etc. Hodsha (talk) 21:23, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Confusing. Steel1943 (talk) 23:16, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Retarget to Leib#Surnames derived from the name now that the content has been restored. Steel1943 (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No need. The original (and restored) page contained anchor. --Altenmann >talk 23:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I prefer section redirects over anchor redirects whenever possible, especially when forwarding to the top of a section, so I disagree. Steel1943 (talk) 00:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  And I disagree with your preference: sections are often renamed and nobody cares to fix redirects, that can be multiple. I am fixing such consequences of benevolent but clueless copyeditors at least one a month. Anchors are permanent, unless someone removes them without much thinking. --Altenmann >talk 18:26, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The same could be said about section headers or anchors: Someone removing them or renaming them causes havoc. The main difference here though is that section headers are more compatible with the mobile version of Wikipedia than anchors. Steel1943 (talk) 14:13, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy Keep. Someone "optimized" the page and created confusion. --Altenmann >talk 23:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Well, whatever they did to the page, this redirect doesn't make sense anymore, given the respecting content is no longer there, so I'd say the nomination statement is valid. It's like deleting a redirect from a fictional character to a character list after the character is removed from the list. Steel1943 (talk) 23:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  ...And now, it's back. Steel1943 (talk) 23:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per Steel1943. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 01:11, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per Altenmann & Steel; whether it's refined or kept at the anchor is honestly not an issue to me, both go to the same place. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Leib#Surnames derived from the name. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:46, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but change to Leib#Surnames derived from the name. I don't think "Surnames" is a good idea for an anchor on such an article, seems quite confusing especially with a section "Surname". A7V2 (talk) 01:23, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. No comments after the relist, no consensus before the relist. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 21:21, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Pita Revilla → Bernard Palanca  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Pita Revilla is the mother of Bernard Palanca and Miko Palanca ([1]). A one-sentence article was created but reverted per WP:NOTINHERITED. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 14:17, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep current target, as Bernard's article is the only one with information about the subject. Jalen Barks (Woof) 16:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete without prejudice against the creation of a disambiguation page. This somehow fell off the RfD log page without being closed, and nobody has taken the initiative Jay has suggested we take, so here we go. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:08, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Research impact → Research Excellence Framework  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Delete. The redirect is a very broad concept (the impact of research), and the target is very specific (a programme that evaluates the impact of research in the UK). If we have an article that discusses research impact, the general concept, this should be retargeted there; otherwise it should be deleted to encourage article creation, since the current target is country-specific and doesn't explain what "research impact" is. Even the target's "research impact" section merely quotes the programme's own definition of research impact, without any hints about this definition's usefulness outside the UK. Nyttend (talk) 06:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambig. In addition to the target we have other articles like Bibliometrics, Impact factor, Author-level metrics, Citation impact and probably others that someone using this search term could be looking for. There is also Research4Impact that warrants at least a see-also on the dab page. Thryduulf (talk) 11:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete as a redirect, unless someone wishes to work on Thryduulf's disambig suggestions. Jay 💬 16:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep and move the dab to Legendary beast (disambiguation). (non-admin closure) Cremastra — talk — c 20:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Legendary beast → Legendary creature  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Doesn't this also refer to Suicune/Raikou/Entei? DAB based on legendary bird. Web-julio (talk) 04:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment - I feel like I've also heard this term used to refer to the three legendary beasts of Ziz, Behemoth, and Leviathan as a collective set, but I can't seem to find a reference to such. Fieari (talk) 05:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

retarget to raikou without much prejudice to a dab, at least for now, as it's the best- uh, the first one in the pokédex, and the legendary kitties manage to be the primary topic for the entire term by a longer shot than they probably should be. results for "legendary beast" -pokémon and similar searches gave me...

• the behemoth... but specifically the one from final fantasy 14... and specifically the name of a quest related to it in monster hunter: world
• a toy company, seemingly big fans of comic books. no article for it though
• a lot of books, most of which are partial matches like "the first legendary beast master", or "the legendary beast of kara". no articles for any of them though
• pokémon. i specified that i didn't want pokémon, and google gave me pokémon

even then, most results were just descriptions of things, like "wow those gym guys sure are legendary beasts, that's real muscular of their muscles", or terminology from live service games. if sources can be found for leviathan and its wacky buddies, it'll probably justify a dab. as is though, i find it pretty unlikely that the term would be used for anything other than the pokémon, even though that really shouldn't be the case here. how does it just gobble up basic terms like this for itself, d*ng cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

drafted a dab regardless, by the by cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Legendary creature is the WP:PTOPIC here, not individual Pokémon, but I would support adding a "For legendary Pokémon, see List of Pokémon" hatnote seeing as it could potentially be helpful. BugGhost🦗👻 17:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Pokemon is a fictional creation from the 1990s, not legend or any other kind of folklore, so characters from the franchise are merely fictional, not legendary. There's no question in my mind that the current target is the primary topic. Nyttend (talk) 05:40, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Nyttend: For clarification, the reason that these three are referred to as "legendary beasts" is because they are classified as Legendary Pokémon in-universe, and Pokémon fans frequently refer to these three Pokémon as the legendary beasts. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:21, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambiguate I could easily see people wanting to read about actual legendary creatures when they type this in, but Google results clearly favor this trio of Pokémon. For clarification, the term "legendary beasts" is frequently used to refer to these three collectively, as they are considered legendary beasts in-universe and are classified as Legendary Pokémon. Legendary bird is a similar case and is currently a disambiguation page. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:18, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Google results are naturally going to be biased in favour of recent pop-culture subjects. This is a concept with thousands of years of (pre)history; Pokemon can't compete. Nyttend (talk) 06:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The reason Google is biased towards recent pop-culture is because that's what a lot of people are searching for. Yes Pokemon is a much newer and much less high-brow subjected, but none of that is relevant to an NPOV encyclopaedia. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

      The Legendary Beasts were introduced in the GBC-era Gold/Silver; this is pretty far from recent. Granted the idea of beasts of legend is far from new, but discounting Pokemon and and saying that, say, Mythical creatures is the primary topic is... What's the opposite of recentism? 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 02:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    to say the least i can, i disagree with that. from some snooping around (googling things and looking for specific dates), use of the term "legendary beast" and its plural form has been primarily associated with the funny kitties by a long shot since at least mid 2001 (i'm not pushing it to back july 2000 when a tcg pack released to tease gold and silver, apparently already using this name for the trio, that'd be a stretch even by my standards). while it probably shouldn't, i think those particular pokémon can compete cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 11:50, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • And this is an encyclopedia, not a pop-culture directory or a popular-right-now website: we prioritise things of long-term significance. When I search Google for "apple", all but one of the results on the first two pages are related to the computer company, but we leave the fruit article at apple because it's of long-term significance. Try looking in dead-tree sources. Nyttend (talk) 23:26, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambig per above. Thryduulf (talk) 10:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment for the closer. If kept, at least the DAB can be put at Legendary beast (disambiguation), as it's already drafted in the main page. Web-julio (talk) 02:30, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as is it should target legendary creature -- the disambiguation page should be located at Legendary beast (disambiguation) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep (as redirect), the primary topic is legendary creatures which discusses beasts. A disambig page to alleviate possible confusion should be at (disambiguation), if decided to utilize. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:51, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The generic meaning takes priority over one franchise. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 21:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Fendlerella utahensis → Fendlerella  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Fendlerella is no long a monotypic taxon according to Plants of the World Online. The redirect should be deleted to eliminate the false blue links in lists of species and encourage article creation. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 20:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. These redirects are harmful. Cremastra — talk — c 20:14, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 21:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 2026 Women's Finalissima → Women's Finalissima  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No information at the target about the event, better left as a red link for the time being. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Thryduulf (talk) 17:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:REDYES. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 19:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disqualify as per above. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:37, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 22:54, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the above. A7V2 (talk) 01:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ^Complex/_Rational 21:09, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 2026 Futsal Finalissima → Futsal Finalissima  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No information at the target about the event, better left as a red link for the time being. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:42, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Thryduulf (talk) 17:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:TOOSOON and WP:REDYES. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 19:08, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per above. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:38, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:TOOSOON. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 22:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per the above. A7V2 (talk) 01:25, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete by Justlettersandnumbers per WP:G14. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 17:33, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• DC Super Hero Girls (disambiguation) → DC Super Hero Girls  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not a redirect to a disambiguation page. I'm not sure what's going on with the page history of DC Super Hero Girls, though. Duckmather (talk) 14:47, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you mean the move warring thing? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 16:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as per nom; this is an incorrect disambuigator. While the current target is indeed having some issues and might need a few extra eyes on it, that's not the wheelhouse of RfD. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The Play Station 4 → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The Play Station IV → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PlayStation IV → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PlayStation4 → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PlayStationIV → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The Wii U → Wii U  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The WiiU → Wii U  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The Wii → Wii  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The nintendo wii → Wii  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

same case as the others, but not previously nominated. nominating separately just in case cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh wait

delete the playstation4 and the playstationiv as malformed. should have noticed them before cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all - I know they seem a bit redundant, but the "the"'s do actually get used. eg "the Wii", "the PlayStation 4", and "the Wii U" are all used in this article on Britannica, "the Wii U" and "the Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3" and "the Switch" in this Guardian article. "The" + [games console] is a pretty common structure. BugGhost🦗👻 15:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all. As per WP:CHEAP; redundancy is not an issue for a redirect; the important question to ask is if A: it's possible that it could be typed, and B: it goes to the correct place. B is unquestionably correct for every single one of these-- and with A, as per BugGhost people do refer to these consoles as "The [console]"; it's not outside the realm of possibility that they could be typed as such in the search bar. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep all. Most aren't particularly common, but they are plausible, and none damaging or misleading, so I see no reason for deletion. Sergecross73 msg me 16:30, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all per above. These are all plausible and harmless. Thryduulf (talk) 17:28, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all per above. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 19:05, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all, as the creator of two of these redirects, The Wii U and The WiiU, these redirects are useful to people who think that the "The" is part of the name. Sahaib (talk) 07:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, consoles are frequently referred to with a definite article so it's plausible to search in this fashion for them. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:54, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Alll - It is meme'd nearly to the level of a joke, but non-gamers without domain knowledge do in fact refer to these consoles with the definitely article as part of the name. Even though this is in error, it is a common enough error to make looking for the topics this way a very plausible search term. Fieari (talk) 23:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• PS3 Media → PlayStation 3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

what is "media" here? games? music? persona 5? originally created as a short paragraph about how the ps3 can Do Things™ cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:09, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete not usable -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 16:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I would think its rather obvious that it would indicative of mediums a PlayStation 3 can play - types of discs, music formats, etc. The sort of things covered at PlayStation 3#Software. So, while confusion isn't a factor for me, and there's a pretty clear possible target...its use tends to be a pretty clear average of "zero", so its not particularly serving any purpose either. Sergecross73 msg me 16:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, bearing in mind PS3 media doesn't exist. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 12:42, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep/retarget. Elli (talk | contribs) 22:24, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• The Nintendo Entertainment System → Nintendo Entertainment System  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The Dreamcast → Dreamcast  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PlayStation → PlayStation  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PlayStation 4 → PlayStation 4  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• The PS3 → PlayStation 3  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

closed before with no consensus (on the properly capitalized ones, that is). consensus, in slightly more recent times, seems to be that the "the" is not all that necessary. opinions? cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 14:02, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep all - (my comment on the similar RFD here.) The Dreamcast article's opening paragraph starts with The Dreamcast is the final home video game console manufactured by Sega, Nintendo Entertainment System starts with The Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) is an 8-bit home video game console produced by Nintendo., Playstation 3 starts with The PlayStation 3 (PS3) is a home video game console developed and marketed by Sony Computer Entertainment., and Playstation 4 starts with The PlayStation 4 (PS4) is a home video game console developed by Sony Interactive Entertainment.. BugGhost🦗👻 15:20, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually on closer inspection Redirect The PlayStation to PlayStation (console), as it's current target is the brand PlayStation, rather than the original PlayStation console. Keep the rest. BugGhost🦗👻 15:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget The PlayStation to Playstation (console); Keep the rest, as per BugGhost. As per WP:CHEAP; redundancy is not an issue for a redirect; the important question to ask is if A: it's possible that it could be typed, and B: it goes to the correct place. B is unquestionably correct for every single one of these except for The PlayStation -- and with A, as per BugGhost people do refer to these consoles as "The [console]"; it's not outside the realm of possibility that they could be typed as such in the search bar. edit 15:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC) 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• REtarget The PS3 to PS3 (disambiguation); The PlayStation to PlayStation (disambiguation) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 16:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep/retarget per above. Even if they're not common or official, they're still plausible and non-damaging. Sergecross73 msg me 16:36, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget The PlayStation to PlayStation (console), Keep all the others (including "The PS3") as these are harmless redirects that do get use but in the case of "The PlayStation" do not currently point to the primary topic for the search term (literally 100% of hits on the first five pages of a Google search for "The PS3" -Wikipedia refer to the console). Thryduulf (talk) 17:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget and keep per Lunamann. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 19:03, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all Per WP:PANDORA. We do not have a corresponding "The" redirect for every consumer electronics product that could be referred to as such (i.e. The MacBook). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please do not use Pandora, see WP:GETBACKINTHERE-- it's unhelpful and can be actively harmful to cite. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 11:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Just because we do not currently have other similar redirects is not a reason why these redirects are harmful or why any other similar redirects would be. Thryduulf (talk) 11:57, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I personally vie for pandora to get back in their box. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 12:37, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't agree with that application of PANDORA, nor do I think this is a convincing "we don't have that elsewhere" argument. Sergecross73 msg me 15:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Worth noting that MacBook is about the brand that spans multiple laptop models (so "the MacBook" would be a bad redirect), while The new MacBook is an existing redirect to 12-inch MacBook, which is about an individual MacBook model - that redirect has been live for 9 years. BugGhost🦗👻 22:20, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I love WP:PANDORA, but yeah, it's not a popular stance. Blarg. Steel1943 (talk) 17:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I mean, if WP:PANDORA were edited to take into account the issues listed in WP:GETBACKINTHERE, I'd probably be less adamant about its not being used, lol 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 19:31, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If PANDORA were edited to take into account all the issues with it there wouldn't be anything left! Thryduulf (talk) 14:07, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Completely and entirely fair lol 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:01, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, consoles are frequently referred to with a definite article so it's plausible to search in this fashion for them. I also don't see an issue with The MacBook should it be created. -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep all - Very plausible search term, these consoles-- indeed, any console-- is often refered to using the definite article by non-gamers (those currently lacking domain specific knowledge). I also advocate never using pandora as an argument in RfD. Fieari (talk) 23:39, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Cremastra — talk — c 20:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• PSX2 → PlayStation 2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• PSX 2 → PlayStation 2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

would make sense, since the ps1's codename was "psx", but that wasn't the case for the ps2, so no one refers to it as that. also not to be confused with the psx that was... a video recorder with a ps2 grafted to it (technology was weird back then), or anything in psx. there is an emulator called "psx 2" (not to be confused with pcsx2), but it doesn't have its own article yet, and doesn't seem to be for the ps2 cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:17, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep it was referred to that way at the time. {{R from nickname}} -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 16:29, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per above, it was unofficially used back in the day, similar to how Nintendo Switch 2 is used now, Wii 2 was used for Wii U, etc. Sergecross73 msg me 16:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete as a plausible {{R from incorrect name}} for PSX (digital video recorder) (thus a potential claim that these redirects are ambiguous) since it was made specifically to be used with the PlayStation 2. Steel1943 (talk) 17:36, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - Someone finding historical reference to these may want to search what they meant at the time. The target of the redirect will inform them in a useful manner. Fieari (talk) 23:41, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:10, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• PlayStation Dos → PlayStation 2  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

no particular affinity with any language that uses "dos" as "two". results were mostly related to some weird fictional language's use of "dos", as the plural form of "of" (so "...alguns dos melhores jogos de playstation" actually means "...some of the best playstation games"), with no particular affinity with the ps2 cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 13:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Delete this one as per WP:RLANG. We're not the spanish Wikipedia. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:FORRED. Steel1943 (talk) 16:26, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above. Sergecross73 msg me 16:40, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per FORRED, but Brazilian Portuguese is not a "weird fictional language". Thryduulf (talk) 17:34, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  shh don't explain the joke cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 19:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Sorry, but I don't regard POV insults towards a language (and implicitly speakers of that language) to be a joke. Thryduulf (talk) 21:07, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yeah, I don't get it either, but many of Cogsans "jokes" seem to pull from the extremely online culture that doesn't seem to resonate here. I imagine it's from some meme video we've never heard of rather than a place of hate or ignorance. Sergecross73 msg me 15:32, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  it actually just pulls from brazilians not taking anything seriously, least of all brazil cogsan _{(nag me) (stalk me)} 15:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:RFOR. ...or WP:FORRED, whichever you prefer) Fieari (talk) 23:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  You could also have WP:RFOREIGN, WP:FOREIGN, WP:RLOTE, WP:RLOE, WP:RFFL, or WP:RLANG as well! I don't know of another redirect-related page with a greater variety of shortcuts than this one. Thryduulf (talk) 23:51, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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