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Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 November 30

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 30, 2024.

South Georgia (version 2)

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was delete. History merge completed. plicit 00:17, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Useless and confusing. QuicoleJR (talk) 23:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. The fact this redirect was not deleted years ago is strange, given its lack of utility. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:50, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there's a second version of South Georgia that only the creator of the redirect knows about,[Joke] Delete as an uncontroversial housekeeping decision. Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:56, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Alex Shrub

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 24#Alex Shrub

Fpoon

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. Not a very satisfying conclusion but it's been two months and discussion has trailed off. Incidentally, I've dabbed Foon. (non-admin closure) J947edits 08:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is terminology that was created primarily from a Key & Peele sketch. Searching for "fpoon" brings up exclusively K&P related videos and the urban dictionary citing them. While this might be a portmanteau of "fork" and "spoon", this is not a widely accepted or cited synonym, and is not mentioned at the target. The common and non-confusing name for this subject is "spork"; a lack of pageviews indicate that "fpoon" may be a novel and obscure synonym for the subject, and is likely to confuse readers. Especially so as "fpoon" is not a real word, or particularly grammatical. People who use this term may very well be looking for the Continental Breakfast K&P sketch, lol. Utopes (talk / cont) 08:18, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep I do know Key & Peele are hardly the first to come up with this portmanteau. My Elementary School came up with this term (to roarous laughter) sometime in the mid 2000's, significantly predating Key & Peele's coining, and I would have to guess we got it from somewhere just as they did. Conceptually, the jump to a inverted portmanteau is pretty simple, and while it may not be a word I draw serious issues with litigating the legitimacy of a word in a Wikipedia RfD log. Considering there is no central authority for accepted language in English, the fact that Googling the term provides several results (no mater how focused on one subject they may be) is, I think, enough of a reason to say it is a word. Beyond all of that, fpoon is no more grammatical then spork, we're just used to spork. (yes, the fp is not a frequently found constant grouping in English, but novel use of a constant group is hardly cause to call something not a word, if it was than vroom, vlog, dreamt, and bulb are all in trouble (vr, vl, mt, and lb respectively)). Foxtrot620 (talk) 14:39, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete "It's funny" and "people have come up with it before" are not valid arguments to retain the redirect. There has to be some evidence of common usage to refer to sporks in that way, which there isn't. See also WP:NOTNEO for more details. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 15:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak keep. Meh, it's a somewhat plausible {{R from incorrect name}}, and its existence potentially prevents this title from being recreated. (That, and I doubt that the invention of a fork with a spoon-like end, like a handle, four-prong with three holes, then curved end, which is what I picture a "fpoon" being, makes any sense to invent.) Steel1943 (talk) 21:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Delete. Just realized I'm actually thinking of the more likely search term "Foon", which is a redirect to a different target that has a hatnote referring readers to Spork. This nominated redirect is nonsense due to the inclusion of the "p". Steel1943 (talk) 16:45, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep - I'm shocked foon doesn't redirect to spork, as I've definitely heard that one a lot. Fpoon doesn't seem far off from that, and I don't really think the target is ambiguous... surely Key and Peele aren't the only ones to have ever used the term. Fieari (talk) 04:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Fieari: I was thinking the same thing about Foon ... and I'm thinking per WP:DIFFCAPS, I agree with your shockedness and am considering retargeting or starting an RFD. Steel1943 (talk) 05:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jay 💬 00:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. If this were plausible for any utensil, it would be a spoon with long s, i.e. ſpoon. Even then I don't think it useful; we shouldn't go around creating "f" redirects for every word with an initial or medial "s" merely because someone might confuse an old long-s spelling with an f-spelling. fpork wouldn't make sense for the current target even with a long-s, especially since the long s fell out of favour before the spork was invented in 1874. Nyttend (talk) 23:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or soft redirect to wikt:fpoon. Enix150 (talk) 03:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget to wiktionary for now - if the entry there fails verification then we'll have our answer and it will be G8-ed. Otherwise we'll have our answer than it's a rare but present nickname and it will point somewhere than actually mentions the term. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:43, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 18:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep If foon exists as a humorous term for spork, then surely fpoon wouldn't be that much different? Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 05:58, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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FC8671

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 15:59, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect is for an alternative name for the DJI Neo. The section on the Neo was removed from the DJI Mavic article as the two drones are almost entirely unrelated. Since no article on the Neo currently exists, this redirect should be deleted or retargeted. - ZLEA T\C 07:49, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retarget to DJI. --Tim Wu (talk) 07:57, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
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Yoshi's Island series villains

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 00:18, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't called the Yoshi's Island series, and the only Yoshi villains mentioned in the article are Bowser and Kamek. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:46, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fado (character)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Fado (character)

Wokingham Town

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 12:42, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disagreement regarding target. I believe it should point to the actual town of Wokingham instead. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Izzle O' Wizzle

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The result of the discussion was delete. Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:57, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Joke name, not used. FOARP (talk) 10:47, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Benzema 15

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The result of the discussion was delete. Jay 💬 16:34, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Surely Benzema 15 is an intrusive and obscure name for an article relating to the football/soccer player Karim Benzema, which relates to sensitive content which shouldn't be openly glorified with the naming of this redirect, as it cannot be compared to other redirects such as CR7 for Cristiano Ronaldo. Cltjames (talk) 12:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Redirect wasn't tagged correctly by the nom. Relisting for a full week of discussion.
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Barotrauma and Wind turbines

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 7#Barotrauma and Wind turbines

WP:NOTWIKIA and WP:NOTFANDOM

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was keep. with a hatnote. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 12:37, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous RfDs for this redirect and similar redirects:

Suggested decision: Retarget to Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom. WP:WPINFD and WP:WPINWA already target that page, which explains the differences between Wikipedia and Fandom, but this redirect is still targeting the policy on that Wikipedia is not a social network, just like treating anyone who slaps unnotable fancruft with indiscriminate collections of information just like on Fandom[hyperbole] as someone who is using Wikipedia as a social network. 67.209.128.85 (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Comment: Unfortunately, I cannot notify the ones who created such redirects because both of them are either retired and/or inactive. 67.209.128.85 (talk) 16:08, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why would you retarget it to an essay instead of a policy? The Banner talk 17:01, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia now has an essay explaining that it is not Fandom. The current target of these redirects is outdated, so i was obligated to ask for consensus before doing any deliberate redirect target changes. 67.209.128.85 (talk) 17:35, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep You are proposing to downgrade the level of importance as an essay is just a long comment while a policy can be enforced. The Banner talk 12:56, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep both. Both have incoming links, and have existed for years. Also, "policy" > "essay" any day of the week. Hatnote the current target if necessary. Steel1943 (talk) 03:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree that the current target should have a hatnote if we were to keep this redirect.
    I propose it should look something like this:
    {{Redirect2|WP:NOTFANDOM|WP:NOTWIKIA|the essay explaining that Wikipedia is not Fandom|Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom}}
    Which would appear as:
    67.209.128.85 (talk) 12:41, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep widely used already, and this concerns POLICY, which is of much higher import than any other rules. An ESSAY is not even a rule, and thus will be widely misleading as it makes any arguments using the shortcut expecting policy result in an argument that means nothing, as essays are ultimately not WIDE CONSENSUS created polices. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 05:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Policy should be a higher priority than essays --Lenticel (talk) 00:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Retarget. When Wikipedia users appeal to an argument by linking to it, it's crucial that the link to that argument be preserved, even if it is later rejected by consensus, because that link is part of the user's statement and is essential for understanding what they are saying. Unfortunately, it's not clear to me that saying WP:NOTWIKIA or WP:NOTFANDOM is saying anything in particular, other than the implicit "That content would be acceptable on Fandom, but is not acceptable on Wikipedia." I say this based on review of both the target and a sample of inbound links. There is no relevant content at the target, except for "If you are interested in using the wiki technology for a collaborative effort on something else, ... many free and commercial sites provide wiki/web hosting". Most editors here seems concerned about downgrading from a policy page to an essay, but this statement doesn't make any authoritative pronouncement about what is or isn't allowed or should or shouldn't be done. I think we should target the best expression of the referenced argument. I'm not overly impressed by Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not Fandom. It's a simple comparison page, and doesn't make a specific argument, but I think if we are to try to understand the views of those who link to WP:FANDOM, it's better than WP:NOT. Daask (talk) 12:19, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Keep or retarget?
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Headwaters Country Jam

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Cardwell, Montana which resolves the original concern. There's not much of a consensus, but feel free to resolve the concern that it's a "trivial passing mention" using the claimed WP:REDYES-level sourcing. -- Tavix (talk) 23:28, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target article or rest of Wikipedia. Delete. Retarget per below -1ctinus📝🗨 23:03, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Needs more consensus
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Relisting comment: Delete or retarget?
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Macchar

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Ca talk to me! 12:36, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no particular affinity for urdu cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 20:53, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This one matches a lot of pretty legitimate uses in Indian websites for mosquito control, as does the spelling variant "machhar". Hard to tell which is the preferred spelling. Dyanega (talk) 22:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
if wiktionary is to be trusted here, it'd be "macchar". then again, it's tucked away in the translations, so... cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:48, 26 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. WP:RFOREIGN is the relevant essay. A casual search revealed the use of this term (or its spelling variant "machhar") for mosquito in English-language content.[1][2][3][4][5] Thus I think this is an example of "Apparently foreign words which are used as the English variant word in some forms of English". Daask (talk) 09:37, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any further thoughts?
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Keep seems plausible to me, as per many sources. KOLANO12 3 14:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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HAL America

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 16:18, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unused redirect aside from a single sandbox. Obscure brand used by the company on publishing games in North America which are attributed to HAL Laboratory in the games' articles. MimirIsSmart (talk) 07:50, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I don't think anyone's lamenting over the loss of this redirect, not even the creator of the sandbox. Someone-123-321 (I contribute) 12:01, 30 November 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Someone-123-321 (talk • contribs) [reply]
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Argufying

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 December 11#Argufying

Template:Use Myanmar English

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-namespace redirect, apparently created in error. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:26, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on creating the template?
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Template:Country data Government of East Pakistan

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 16:17, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This cross-namespace redirect was causing major problems at Template:Country data Provisional Government of Bangladesh, where the documentation is expecting to transclude a small template, but the article was being transcluded. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Main Line Railway Preservation

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Conservation and restoration of rail vehicles. Avoided double redirect. (non-admin closure) Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:58, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unnecessary capitalization of a two-sentence article that I had merged into a related article. MimirIsSmart (talk) 03:40, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Make Me Look Good

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not mentioned in target. QuicoleJR (talk) 03:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Capture and replay testing

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 03:40, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Targets a section that has been removed. There doesn't seem like a good alternative target exists. Delete unless there is consensus to restore the removed section. Mdewman6 (talk) 03:02, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Multivariant testing

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Positive and negative test cases

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