The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 22:08, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

User:Sria-72/WPac hypo series (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)​

WP:NOTWEBHOST. This belongs on Hypothetical Hurricanes Wiki and has no possible value as potential article material here. Jasper Deng (talk) 17:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - See Wikipedia is not for alternate history, whether written as of the past or as of the future. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:41, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - This was never intended to be an article in any way, and it is just a page for me to paste stuff for me to keep track off. This whole request is stupid and I have to say the same about my other two pages. Sria-72 (talk) 18:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • NOTWEBHOST has no exception for it being a subpage.--Jasper Deng (talk) 19:49, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and warn the user. They are NOTWEBHOSTING and worse, egregiously, by writing false history. This is not compatible with Wikipedia, even in userspace. The user’s serious contributions are low and this userspace activity is not within reason leeway. SmokeyJoe (talk) 23:26, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Wikipedia does not host material in subpages unless it is intended for actual usage in a WP article or is related in some way.Noah, AA^Talk 17:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - this is a subpage, not an actual page, it’s not an actual article, this request is stupid. -CarterStormTracking, 18:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
• Struck, because of WP:MEAT on the WP:WPTC Discord server (against server rules).--Jasper Deng (talk) 21:17, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This content is not appropriate anywhere on Wikipedia.—Alalch E. 22:56, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment - The originator admits that they are using the page to paste stuff, which is web hosting, but Wikipedia is not for web hosting. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Question for User:Jasper Deng - Is there off-wiki coordination on the WPTC Discord Server? Haven't the editors learned anything from the ArbCom case? ArbCom didn't impose contentious topics for tropical cyclones, so does that mean that the community or ArbCom needs to deal with this again? Robert McClenon (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The two users claimed no knowledge of the server rule when confronted about this but it doesn’t make sense to me. However, they understood that this is not allowed after I explained it to them. As kids they’re naturally going to act like kids. It appears this is an isolated incident and no action needs to be taken other than striking out the canvassed !vote.—Jasper Deng (talk) 01:27, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Most of the canvassing as of late seems to be individual ignorance of policy rather than either a calculated or coordinated attempt to subvert discussions despite knowing better. I have made an effort to stop canvassing when I have seen it. Most of the people involved were not familiar with the policy and stopped once they were warned. I honestly believe most of the habitual canvassers have been dealt with. I have turned in people who were trying to either recruit meatpuppets or blatantly canvass others for on wiki discussions in defiance of policy and prior warnings in order to prevent further disruption. Noah, AA^Talk 19:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Question for User:Sria-72 - Do they think that this use of subpages to paste stuff to keep track of is reasonable? Do they think that the editors at MFD are being unreasonable or stupid? If so, I am willing to ask a larger segment of the community at Village Pump for their opinions. If the larger segment of the community thinks this is all right, I will accept the advice of the community and change my !vote, and maybe other editors will also. If we are acting hastily, maybe we should get more advice. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • They do, but trying to influence the result by posting there is just as inappropriate as the canvassing for which I struck the !vote above.--Jasper Deng (talk) 18:08, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • User:Jasper Deng - Thank you, but I wasn't asking you. I was asking them whether I should post a neutrally worded inquiry at Village Pump. Neutrally worded notices about open discussions are permitted, but you knew that. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:37, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

      I personally don't think this is appropriate either. Let's try and keep the discussion to one place to avoid an impropriety akin to WP:FORUMSHOPPING. _{Duly signed,} ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 14:11, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  I do think that subpages are a good place to paste stuff, due to Wikipedia running on MediaWiki. This often is why I use sandboxes and my other subpages, mainly for testing code (which, essentially is what the hypothetical timelines are). I always assumed that "sandbox" meant that I could just test stuff there, related to Wikipedia or not. I admit calling Jasper stupid was not right for me to say, but I definitely feel as if this could have been discussed with me first before going straight for a MFD submission.

  I re-read Wikipedia policy and I do admit I wasn't aware of the NOWEBHOSTING rule before this. I had seen other people do this so I assumed it was okay since no action had been taken against them. I would appreciate you do bring this up at the Village Pump. Sria-72 (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Pages like this are way outside the purpose of Wikipedia and WP:NOTWEBHOST. Johnuniq (talk) 07:13, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: WP:NOTWEBHOST. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} 03:27, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. WP:NOTWEBHOST, and we should check other users' subpages in WP:WPTC since I have noticed most of them back in the day were mostly doing editing in these pages. MarioJump83 (talk) 14:13, 23 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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