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Redirect was deleted unilaterally without going to redirects for discussion. Please feel free to combine the redirects into one heading. Jax 0677 (talk) 20:00, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Restore and send to RfD. WP:G6 is for uncontroversial maintenance. While calling this deletion "maintenance" may be subjective, this is clearly not "uncontroversial" since it's at DRV. -- Tavix ^(talk) 01:15, 21 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Ways to identify a bad G6:
  • You're not willing to undelete immediately upon request. Check.
  • There's a more specific speedy deletion criterion that would apply, except it has a mandatory waiting period. Check.
  • There's been rejected proposals for a speedy deletion criterion covering this exact case on WT:CSD, maybe often enough that it actually appears in WP:NOTCSD. Check and check.
  About the only way this could've been worse is if there was a non-transitory loss of content.
  I fully agree that these redirects are useless, and I'll happily argue for their deletion at RFD. But they're not speedies, and particularly not G6s. Overturn. —Cryptic 04:12, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy undelete and list at XfD, standard response to most requests for deletions. If someone wants a discussion, let them have it, at XfD. --SmokeyJoe (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:57, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• List at XfD- didn't look like a terrible G6 to me, but if someone wants to have this discussion they should probably be allowed to. Reyk _YO! 13:53, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Overturn. We used to automatically overturn any contested WP:CSD. That was a good policy. Almost by definition, if somebody objects, then it must not have been uncontroversial. That's especially true of WP:G6. I don't know if these redirects are useful or not, but if somebody wants to discuss their deletion, they should get the chance to do so. -- RoySmith (talk) 00:01, 24 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Welllll... I don't agree that any CSD should be an auto-overturn on request. G10 (attack pages), G9 office actions, and the ones relating to copyright violations should not come back just because someone asks. Also, if I U1 something in my user space, the only person who should generally be allowed to request its restoration is me. Other than those necessary exceptions, I agree with you. Reyk _YO! 10:07, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • Seems quite reasonable. There will be times when it's not appropriate to undelete on request even for other speedy categories, so this probably isn't a hard-and-fast rule. But a fine general principle. Hobit (talk) 15:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • This is true; I overstated my case. The examples given by User:Reyk are certainly cases where just having somebody object isn't enough. But in this case it is :-) -- RoySmith (talk) 23:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]