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I feel this close on "keep" is incorrect. All of the "keep" arguments amont to merely claiming sources are sufficient instead of explaining why they'd be so (as it is stated in WP:AFDFORMAT: "explain how the article meets/violates policy rather than merely stating that it meets/violates the policy). Which is extremely weak considering it has been pointed out in the discussion that most sources are either primary or fundamentally trivial (ie one-sentence mentions only), thus failing our notability guideline, and the "keep" supporters chose to avoid adressing that issue (making them voters rathers than participants in a debate).
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I feel the close of this AfD as keep is wrong as the failed to correctly weigh policy based arguments vs those that did not articulate their Keep !votes.
The article it's self has nothing on the significance of the event a point picked up on by TreyGeek and his comment. Addressing the claims that a UFC title fight somehow makes the event have lasting significance, this is the very definition of what is routine for a sequentially numbered UFC event, every one has one, it is how they sell tickets, by last count they had about 1 I therefore believe a result of consensus keep is wrong and not based on policy. ✍ Mtking ✉ 00:16, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
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The article was deleted because the "references do not appear to be from independent reliable sources". This decision was incorrect, as the references meet the Wikipedia:GNG guidelines as multiple, independent sources were listed that established notability for the game (the article contained references including: a review in the February 2007 issue of PC Zone, a review at Just Adventure, and a feature at Adventure Gamers as well as an award from Adventure Gamers). All of these sources are independent reliable, notable sources (PC Zone, Just Adventure and Adventure Gamers are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources as reliable sources). In addition to WP:GNG, the reviews also make it meet Wikipedia:Notability (software), since the software is the subject of multiple reliable reviews, written by independent authors and published by independent publishers.JenniBees (talk) 23:54, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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There were two keeps. However, the administrator deleted it without proper rationale. Attempts to contact the administrator were unsuccessful because he retired. Also, the administrator was subject to Arbitration until motion is suspended. If temporarily undeleted, then we must know whether the image can increase readers' understanding of the episode in question. By the way, it was reviewed one month ago, but it was mass deletion review. This deletion is a test to find out whether we can go one at a time or make one review on two or three files. As for the file itself, I bet it worked in Production section of "Burns' Heir". I mean, why using a free photo of Richard Simmons? Robot and human being are different from each other. George Ho (talk) 21:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
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The deleting editor, an administrator, Nyttend, has twice deleted a series of valid redirects in September and again in November, for a set of NRHP-listed places in Ohio for which I had created a combo article, Hobart Welded Steel House Company and its works to cover them all. Each redirect pointed to a subsection about one NRHP-listed place in this combo article. Covering multiple similar NRHP-listed places in one article is fine and good; other editors concerned with NRHP short articles have so argued, in other contexts that Nyttend is familar with (e.g. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/St. Boniface Cemetery, Wrought-Iron Cross Site where Nyttend commented). What seems salient here is that the places are in Indiana or Ohio where the deleting editor has been exercising extreme oversight, to put it mildly. The deleting editor is fully aware of the fact that the deletions performed did not conform to any speedy deletion criteria, having been so informed by me at least twice. First discussion is archived at here (in Nyttend's archive 24), second "discussion" is at discussion that was at Nyttend's talk, was still showing but was archived during this discussion to Nyttend's archive 25. (The link in previous sentence updated by doncram 1/4/2013. Please note it is necessary to "unhide" much of the discussion there, hidden by Nyttend.) (A Nyttend statement to me also appears at User talk:Doncram#Hobart steel houses, but I quote that fully and respond to that in the Nyttend Talk page discussion.) Nor would their deletion be justified by any regular deletion criteria, nor by any redirects for discussion criteria, but that has not been tested by any such proceeding. The speedy deletion argument cited in the twice deletions was argument R3, which is for "Implausible typos", which always clearly never applied.
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I do not have much of a personal opinion on the article but I do think people should take note of my opinion that it has good sourcing, just needs a small formatting touch to be up to Wikipedia standards, and the consideration that Mrs. Domingues is now considered to be the oldest person in the world at one point. The reason I am listing this here for deletion review though is because I think any article that is reinstated without the deleting administrator's permission or the consensus of the majority of the community but is not a violation of section G4 of the criteria for speedy deletion should be reevaluated for deletion no matter how good the article itself is. Thebirdlover (talk) 23:48, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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This article about the highest-selling singles in New Zealand was listed for deletion due to a failure of WP:V as there were no sources. Two editors !voted keep after a source that showed the content was provided. However, an analysis of the page containing the content showed that reproduction of the content is not permitted. The RIANZ explicitly stated on the website that "any unauthorised copying, reproduction, linking or framing of any information included herein is strictly prohibited". I pointed this out on the Afd discussion but the comment was ignored, and the discussion was soon closed as "keep" with no further commentary about the newly pointed-out issue. I discussed this with the closing administrator who admitted to overlooking the problem. He suggested to take it to WP:CD which he did, although the discussion has died down and not much insightful input has been provided. The concern that this list is a violation of copyright is still unaddressed, and this article should have been deleted on CSD G12 grounds. Till 06:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
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30 being the lowest number with three prime factors, Base 30 hase less recurring fractions than any base less than Base 210, which is far too high a base system to be used in any practical sense. This makes it incredibly useful when dealing with fractions, as in Base 30 every fraction between one half and one tenth can be easily expressed apart from one seventh which is scarcely used, so for example if I want to scale an object down by a fraction (which I actually have to do quite often with 3D modeling software) you are able to enter a complete number in the number field without having to round, which would result in a loss in precision. Aside from the reason mentioned above, it is also used in geocoding when working with converting longitudes and latitudes. Robo37 (talk) 13:33, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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Disagreeing with the close, I discussed it with the closing admin here. We couldn't come to an agreement, which is why I am now listing this for DRV. In short, I do not feel that the arguments within the discussion should lead to a delete result. A no consensus result would make sense, but certainly not a delete one. The first two voters in the discussion, even after their affirmations of their votes, did not return to comment on the finished product of the article, after I had improved it even further than the point where I had informed them, adding a history section and a number of references. Not to mention that their arguments (WP:GNG) are not backed by further explanation. Simply saying GNG isn't appropriate, because after my expansion, GNG certainly appeared to be met and they didn't expand their arguments to explain why it wouldn't have been met. My improvement of the article changed Cindy's vote and the two delete votes referring to subscription websites are both incorrect (the sources were not majority subscription articles) and also unimportant, as we allow subscription sources per WP:PAYWALL. So I didn't then and still don't understand what their argument was and neither of their votes should be weighted at all. Other than DGG's neutral uncertain vote, that leaves just two (three if you count the nominator) unsubstantiated votes of delete per GNG and four keep votes that say it meet GNG (with me expanding the article to show this fact.) Therefore, I do not believe closing the discussion as delete was appropriate, nor do I feel like it appropriately weighted the arguments. SilverserenC 02:10, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
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Article was nominated for deletion on Dec 22 at 0100 hours and rushingly closed as an AfD and redirected on the same date by 1350 hours (a mere 12 hours timespan) in contravention of WP:DELPRO and WP:PROD. Early closure does not apply in this case. The article creator, its contributors, and the WikiProject overseeing the article where not notified of the AfD. Attempts were made to revert the AfD per WP:IAR, WP:VOTE, WP:NOTADEMOCRACY, and WP:WHATISCONSENSUS but the article was reverted and then protected by an administrator. A request was made for unprotection but it was declined. The article stands on its own per WP:NOTABILITY, WP:NOTPAPER, WP:BIO, WP:VICTIM, and WP:BLP1E—these cases have been discussed extensively on Wikipedia several times and in depth. This particular individual, as WP:VICTIM and WP:BLP1E detail, has been covered in an exclusive manner by a reliable source in the context of a single event. Furthermore, we have precedents such as William David Sanders, Jamie Bishop, and Jamie Bishop's AfD. Regarding WP:VICTIM the following statute applies:
The following reliable sources cover Victoria Leigh Soto in an exclusive manner:
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I believe I responded fully to those who gave reasons for their claim that the article subject was not notable, using WP:MUSIC. I asked the admin about the deletion soon afterward and the response referred to the quartet as a "band", strongly suggesting that neither the article, nor its supporting source material were read before deletion. The admin declined to respond further after I questioned such action. —ADavidB 21:09, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
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With all due respect, WilyD's close here is a blatant supervote. Having these feelings about the article, he should have voted in the discussion, not closed it. Before bringing the issue here, I discussed it with WilyD, explaining that the close appeared to be a supervote because in it, he stated which policies he personally felt applied to the article, rather than evaluating the merits and weight of the arguments already made. In particular, the WP:NOTNEWS/WP:EVENT argument was made by many users, who did explain that sources ceased to cover it almost immediately after it happened and that it was fundamentally routine, but WilyD's response was that he did not personally read about such bombings in the news. He seems to be aligning himself here with a number of the keep !voters who simply claim, in a fashion that obviously has no basis on policy and that should have been given less weight in the close, that any attack on Israelis is inherently notable. WilyD's defense that it is necessary to weigh the merits of arguments, as a closer, is clearly true, but that isn't actually what he did in dismissing "it fails WP:EVENT because coverage did not persist and such events are routine" while accepting "WP:ITSNOTABLE." I would like to request that the discussion be re-closed by another admin. I'm well aware that this might also result in a keep (based in part on the slim numerical majority favoring a keep), but even if that's the case, we need a close by an admin doing an admin's job, not a supervote. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:24, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
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All the photos that I took and placed on this page were deleted. Several have been restored in a request for undeletion. A couple of photos, File:CVM Dedication Plaque 1.JPG and File:CVM Dedication Plaque 2.JPG have not because supposedly the text on the plaques is copyrighted. In the request for undeletion I have made the point that the text in the plaques would not qualify for copyright based on Template:PD-text and commons:Template:PD-text. However, my point fell on deaf ears, so I'm trying to raise it here.
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Relist Final report released, recommendations to change practices at the airport where the accident happened. This is one of the outcomes listed at WP:AIRCRASH for a stand-alone article. I believe that WP:GNG is already met. Relisting would allow the opportunity to expand the (deleted) article. Mjroots (talk) 08:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC) Mjroots (talk) 08:03, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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Relist Subject of article has increased in notability since the deletion of the article. Subject has been written about in more places over the past three years. Subject was represented in a criminal case by a lawyer with a Wikipedia article about him. 68.50.128.91 (talk) 09:10, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
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The deletion of this article is a travesty, the votes were 3 to 1 in favor of keeping it. So what if it breaks one silly rule, I should not have to remind you of your other rule called 'Ignore all rules' which says 'If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.' This page needs to be added back so fans have a place to check out all the latest fightcard changes. This silly censorship of UFC events needs to stop. UFCFan92 (talk) 00:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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The deletion of this article is a travesty, the votes were also 3 to 1 in favor of keeping it. So what if it breaks one silly rule, I should not have to remind you of your other rule called 'Ignore all rules' which says 'If a rule prevents you from improving or maintaining Wikipedia, ignore it.' This page needs to be added back so fans have a place to check out all the latest fightcard changes. This silly censorship of UFC events needs to stop. UFCFan92 (talk) 00:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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I am requesting a review of the speedy deletion of 2012 in UFC for the following reasons:
At very least this should go to another AfD. Mtking (edits) 23:09, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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It was just noted by someone in our community (Interchange) that the Interchange page was deleted a couple of months ago. It appears to have gone two rounds of discussion and yet no one in our community was contacted or notified during this process so we did not get a chance to provide input into the discussion. The reasons for deletion was missing notability, no references from reliable sources and it was commented that, "couldn't find any coverage in reliable sources to establish notability". Surely if our community had been contacted we could have provided a number of links to establish notability such as the following (not exhaustive): http://www.techrepublic.com/article/red-hat-suite-makes-e-commerce-easy/1031400 http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2000121501406PSCYSW Note that this has already been requested on the deleting admin's talk page and we were referred here. Pajamian (talk) 08:41, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
yapc europe 2008 yapc europe 2008 linuxtag 2009 Interchange Website Hall of Fame Linuxia blog Interchange Powered Sites Sandro Groganz LinuxTag 2008 Review IANA list Minivend Port 7786 Cpanel support for Interchange Homeland Security Report Hexfusion (talk) Hexfusion (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hexfusion (talk • contribs) 21:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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Non-admin closure, which apparently counted !votes rather than considering the arguments, which were not referenced in the brief closing statement. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:40, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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This is going to be a rather complicated one. Originally I !voted for deleting the article at the article's AfD, stating that: 1. My standards for criterion #1 of WP:ENTERTAINER were very strict and that the works she starred in had to be high-profile, and 2. There was a lack of Japanese sources. Since then, I realized that my standards were too high and would mean deleting most articles on Japanese voice actors when, I now believe, they clearly meet WP:ENTERTAINER. Also, I was able to find this interview, which, while I'm not sure if it's third-party, would be a useful source of information. Even if I still had my high standards for criterion #1, she would easily pass it; as it turns out, she voiced Link in a few games (although Link does have a reputation of not speaking so much). So I'm taking this article to deletion review because I now believe that she's notable, if only for the Link role and the large amount of work she's done. Should the article be restored, more sources should be found, which is difficult even using her Japanese name (松本さち). Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC) Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 00:05, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
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Definitely an improper NAC which should have been a relist (no clear consensus), but I believe the sourcing claims to GScholar and GNews made in the keep votes do not meet RS/GNG requirements (many hits, but trivial mentions). Relist was suggested by two other parties in the course of discussion at Talk:AFD MSJapan (talk) 13:45, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
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The original reason for deletion in 2009 was 'Lack of Significant Coverage', and it seems that Morphyre now has significant coverage to warrant a page. There are 80,000 Google hits for Morphyre, and it ranks higher for search terms like 'Music Visualization' that virtually every other Music Visualizer. I recently updated the external links in the article and resubmitted it. I thought that this was the correct route to reinstate the page, but it seems not. Sorry about that. I have looked at similar articles on Music Visualisations and put in external links that I assumed to be of sufficient quality for the article. I accept now that AppEggs was a bad source, however the rest of the links seem very reliable to me, and often include reviews by users of the software. If more links are required I can dig up several blog posts, as well as twitter posts and over 100 videos on YouTube. However I did not think that these were required at the time. Please reconsider the deletion of this article. There is a significant amount of general awareness of Morphyre now (with over 15,000 users per day, and 5,400 searches per month on Google for the word 'morphyre') and it seems surprising that there is no Wikipedia page on it. GW PUR3 (talk) 18:40, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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WP:SUPERVOTE by administrator despite 2:1 ratio to keep and thoughtful rationale on the "keep" side apparently ignored. See User_talk:Beeblebrox#Azerbaijan for attempt to convince the administrator to reconsider. As a result of the deletion, I haven't seen the page for a while but I remember thinking that it was very interesting and had good potential when I first read it, and so i think its deletion is a loss to the project. It has a few precedents on Wikipedia - see Category:Etymologies of geographic names. Oncenawhile (talk) 08:53, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Closing administrator cast a WP:SUPERVOTE. Ignored those who agreed that the sources proved it passed the notability guidelines, and decided to look at those sources, decide for himself, and ignore everyone else. Discuss on his talk page was is at User_talk:Coren#super_vote where I and two other editors tried to reason with him, but failed. The article should've closed as no consensus, not delete. Dream Focus 04:15, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Temp Undelete to access information band has reached notability by charting on billboard. If I can access the original page I will recreate it with appropriate references. Informed Deleting user, he deleted my comment with only the title of "that ship has sailed" and archived the rest of the thread on that topic (although only deleted my comment for undeletion). Mariolennox (talk) 03:45, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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Also... I am interested to know how long a stub page is permitted to exist before AfD cuts it. In particular for pages that are clearly not frivolous. It seems to me that cutting them too soon is shot sighted. For the record: I have been previously tagged "Troll?" by PKT(alk) Leng T'che (talk) 23:14, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
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I have made a new version at User:WhisperToMe/Michael Pollack (also at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Michael Pollack) but because an earlier version had been recently deleted (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Pollack), some editors cautioned against a bold move to the mainspace. Other discussion venues:
The editor who originally started Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Pollack stated concerns that the new sources being used fall under Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Routine_coverage. We need to review what that means.
Which sources are characterized like this? The death of Pollack's son, for instance, is not treated as a "routine" announcement but as a locally high profile accident that lead to controversy (Joe Arpaio soapboxed about illegal immigrants after information about the perpetrator was found) - There are numerous sources that are not characterized like this WhisperToMe (talk) 05:48, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
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No source provided not a single one. How do you know these people are not using Sayyid or Syed as a honorific name? First question I am asking is pretty easy to figure out and my second question they have not answer before they decided to keep the article.HiIamstandingbehindyou (talk) 05:10, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
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Kept despite concerns about meeting GNG, no specific sources pointed out (only search engine links). (Note that this was a NAC.) Nouniquenames 22:45, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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This article was speedily deleted under G4, however the deletion discussion used to get the article deleted was for an entirely different article. The fact of the matter is that the ISI has given support to and created terrorist groups. The sources used in the article were to academic publishers for the most part. But a quick google shows that this article meets all the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia. The Council on Foreign Relations has an entire article devoted to the subject on their website[37] The New York Times has a regularly updated section about it.[38] The BBC[39] The Wall Street Journal[40] New York Times[41] Reuters [42] Dawn[43] The Guardian[44] Darkness Shines (talk) 17:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
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Administrator Mark Arsten closed this AFD as a redirect even though only one editor[47] clearly favored that result, and their argument for the redirect was WP:CHEAP. Six editors firmly believed Eunice Penix failed WP guidelines for politicians. Admittedly two of those had redirect as an option, but delete was their first choice[48] in both cases, and the second editor thought[49] a redirect would be a bit pointless. Two of the participants in the AFD expressed their concerns with administrator Mark Arsten. These talk page discussions can be found here[50] and here[51]. ...William 14:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
Regarding my trying to divert attention, WP:RNEUTRAL details my take on neutrality of redirects. Also note that "Reasons for not deleting" bullet 5 says "Someone finds them useful", not thousands of people finds them useful.--Jax 0677 (talk) 01:37, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
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Closing admin has retired: User:PMDrive1061, other admin involved inactive: Nishkid64. Would like to reopen to add this article on Sufism. Couldn't find the Xfd-page. Hope you'll forgive a newbie. See User talk:Samasori and User talk:Jhostetler1974 for further reference.
Done This isn't really a discussion about un-deletion, so it should not be un-deleted. Rather it is a request for novation which as an admin I am free to allow and have done so. Toddst1 (talk) 21:55, 3 December 2012 (UTC) |
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WTF did just happened here? When is a general election to the lower house of a country is deemed "minor"? There are similar articles for US and UK elections ones, what makes these different? –HTD 03:00, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
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- ^ Kaplan, Eben; Jayshree Bajoria (July 9, 2008). "The ISI and Terrorism: Behind the Accusations". The Washington Post. Council on Foreign Relations.
- ^ a b Hussain, Zahid (2008). Frontline Pakistan: The Struggle With Militant Islam. Columbia University Press. p. VII. ISBN 978-0231142250.
- ^ a b Forest, James J. F. (2007). Countering Terrorism and Insurgency in the 21st Century: International Perspectives. Praeger. p. 83. ISBN 978-0275990343.
- ^ a b McGrath, Kevin (2011). Confronting Al Qaeda: new strategies to combat terrorism. Naval Institute Press. p. 138. ISBN 978-1591145035.
- ^ a b Grare, Frédéric (2009). Reforming the Intelligence Agencies in Pakistan’s Transitional Democracy. Carnegie Endowment. p. 15.
- ^ a b c d Camp, Dick (2011). Boots on the Ground: The Fight to Liberate Afghanistan from Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, 2001-2002. Zenith. p. 38. ISBN 978-0760341117.
- ^ Bajoria, Jayshree; Eben Kaplan (May 4, 2011). "The ISI and Terrorism: Behind the Accusations". Council on Foreign Relations.
- ^ Laruelle, Marlène (2011). Mapping Central Asia: Indian Perceptions and Strategies. Ashgate. p. 203. ISBN 978-1409409854.
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