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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete categories Category:Human life scientists and Category:Indian human life scientists with only one member Alex Mathew who is included in the category Category:Indian scientists (but is he is a scientist?).Hugo999 (talk) 22:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Also, remove the article from several other scientist categories. As far as I can see in the article, Alex Mathew was not occupied as a scientist. Initially I thought well at least he may have been a writer, but there is no information about publications either. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Former members of the Harveian Society of Edinburgh to Category:Members of the Harveian Society of Edinburgh
• Propose renaming Category:List of Office Bearers of the Harveian Society of Edinburgh and Harveian Orations to Category:Office bearers of the Harveian Society of Edinburgh

Nominator's rationale: There is no need to distinguish current and former members in categorising biographies. Although there is a supporting page List of Office Bearers of the Harveian Society of Edinburgh and Harveian Orations, the office-bearers category should describe itself rather than following that page name. – Fayenatic London 21:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: I have re-parented the categories so that Members is now the parent of Office bearers; it was the other way around. – Fayenatic London 21:51, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Rename, There is no need to distinguish current and former members in categorising biographies and the other category is a category containing biographies, not a list. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:The Black Parade ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Songs aren't usually categorized by the album they are on, and there is precedent to suggest this is overcategorization, since the songs will be listed in the article for the album and the songs category for the artist (see CfD for The Unforgettable Fire and Cfd for Abbey Road). Removing the songs leaves one other article and four redirects, which are categorized under Category:My Chemical Romance albums or its subcats. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars^{Talk to me} 19:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:56, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Baen Books available as e-books ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Not WP:DEFINING. It's like having a category Category:Albums available on CD or Category:TV series available on DVD --woodensuperman 14:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Ohinoyi of Ebiraland ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: delete, category contains only two articles which is not very helpful for navigation, the two articles are already directly interlinked and they are also both in Category:Nigerian traditional rulers. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Rice genetics to Category:Rice

Nominator's rationale: Single-article category –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:44, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:27, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Expressways to Category:Limited-access roads by country and Category:Limited-access roads
• Propose merging Category:Expressways in Canada to Category:Limited-access roads in Canada

Nominator's rationale: Both Category:Expressways and Category:Limited-access roads claim to cover limited-access roads, so they are covering the exact same topic. The term "expressway" is ambiguous as it can either refer to limited-access roads or controlled-access highways, so it is better to have Category:Limited-access roads and Category:Controlled-access highways as categories rather than using the term "expressway" for either. – BrandonXLF (talk) 04:47, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge per nom. Note that Category:Expressways in the Netherlands contains only one article because all other articles about limited-access roads are in Category:Provincial roads in the Netherlands. I think some further cleanup is needed here. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. No consensus to merge, no consensus to keep, no consensus to containerize. No consensus all around. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Fictional robbers to Category:Fictional thieves
• Propose merging Category:Fictional female robbers to Category:Fictional female thieves

Nominator's rationale: There is very little to distinguish thieves from robbers, both of which have the exact same connotation with one being a subgroup of the other. Given the huge overlap, given that many fictional thieves also engage in robbery, this newly created category should be merged back as overcategorization. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:47, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Merge and redirect. I have added the subcat for females to this nomination, as it would made no sense to keep that without this parent. – Fayenatic London 12:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Fayenatic london: People should also add their opinion on Category:Fictional pirates and Category:Fictional female pirates being a subcategory. It formerly wasn't, because... duh, but AHI added the parent category. Needless to say, pirates are not always thieves and any pirates who are also thieves should be added to both categories. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:44, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The same applies to Category:Pirates. The article Piracy starts "Piracy is an act of robbery…" so I think the sub-catting must continue. – Fayenatic London 17:04, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Fayenatic london: fictional pirates may be heroes rather than thieves. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Real life pirates likewise may be viewed as heroes and thieves by different people. Francis Drake is a hero to English kids but un pirata to Spaniards. But if they take property from others without consent, it's correct to place them within the hierarchy of Theft. – Fayenatic London 08:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment, inclusion of bandits may be even more questionable than pirates. I do not have an opinion about the merge itself. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:15, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Banditry is within Robbery – both conceptually and by current categorisation – so I don't understand the objections here. – Fayenatic London 08:13, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Fayenatic london: I think that banditry should be above robbery and murder. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I disagree, and don't understand why you would think that. Most murderers are not bandits. – Fayenatic London 07:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep but containerize, that will take away the overlap too, while the tree in fiction still mirrors the real life tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 03:45, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would not object to keeping it, but see no point in containerising it. The mugger Joe Chill has been added, which is helpful, as he is plainly a robber. – Fayenatic London 07:06, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Keep per Marco, but disagree about containerizing. AHI-3000 (talk) 06:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Artists from New Spain ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Non of the people in here are described as being New Spanish. I think that this kind of category could work as a parent/container category, but I don't see how it's helpful to bundle such disparate people together Mason (talk) 18:13, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• They do not seem very disparate, most of them lived not too far from Mexico City, the capital of New Spain. And even if they would live far away from the capital, is that a problem? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  New Spain is such a broad area over a huge period of time. Wouldn't it make more sense to have this as a parent category for Category:16th-century Mexican artists etc instead? Mason (talk) 03:35, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Russia is a big country too and it has existed for a long time too. Is that a problem? Of course I wouldn't object to subcategories based on administrative subdivisions, but I am not sure if Mexico was one. At least there were the Captaincy General of Guatemala, the Captaincy General of Yucatán, and the three big Caribbean islands each were their own captaincy general. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that the British Empire is a better comparison than Russia. New Spain is an empire that as far as I can tell isn't something people are defined by. In comparison, being Russian is someone people are regularly defined by.I don't tend to see people described as Artists from New Spain, but I do see things about Artists from Russia. *shrug* I just don't think that this category is helpful for navigation without child categories. Mason (talk) 22:23, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:29, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose renaming Category:Scottish noblewomen to Category:Scottish women by rank

Nominator's rationale: I think we should rename and purge this category to mirror British women by rank and English women by rank Mason (talk) 16:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• This would be inconsistent with parent Category:Scottish nobility. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:31, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  But there's no other noblewomen categories Mason (talk) 03:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd be curious to know why not. If existing I probably wouldn't consider nominating Category:Noblewomen for renaming or merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:37, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    If there was a whole tree I'd be in support of keeping it. But it seems to me that in isolation we should at least have it mirror the existing categories. Mason (talk) 23:19, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• There appears to be Category:Women nobility. Suggest renaming the English and Scottish category to mirror that one. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:21, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:American high school teachers to Category:American schoolteachers

Nominator's rationale: Do we really need to diffuse by level of educator? Do we have middle school, elementary school? This just doesn't need to be very defining Mason (talk) 19:46, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• If merged then disperse in the tree of Category:American schoolteachers by state or territory. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep education varies significantly depending on the level one teaches. Secondary education is different from primary education. Moreover, this is a subcategory Category:Secondary education in the United States, the existence of which demonstrates the differences.--User:Namiba 12:59, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Namiba. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:56, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per Namiba --Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 11:50, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 03:28, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:English expatriates in the Thirteen Colonies ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: The only category member is described as a "colonist in the short-lived Saybrook Colony", which by definition is isn't an expatriate Mason (talk) 03:22, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: This page has been nominated quite a few times; see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 11#Category:People from the Kingdom of England in the Thirteen Colonies. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I guess with the old name the category was populated very well, that is now no longer the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete the Austrian category; merge the British category as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:59, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:19th-century British biblical scholars to Category:British biblical scholars and Category:19th-century British writers
• Propose merging Category:19th-century Austrian biblical scholars to Category:19th-century biblical scholars and Category:Austrian biblical scholars

Nominator's rationale: isolated underpopulated categories. I don't think that we need to diffused at the intersection of nationality and century Mason (talk) 21:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Austria with only one article and the subject was no longer living in Austria when becoming a biblical scholar. Neutral about the British one. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I'm fine with deletion. Mason (talk) 03:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:16th-century Peruvian poets to Category:16th-century poets

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. The only page in this category is an organization, not individual biographies Mason (talk) 01:43, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose deleting Category:Habbo ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category is not that helpful. It only contains the main subject, the company that owns Habbo and the guy who created it. Pretty pointless, all two other articles can easily be found on the Habbo article itself... QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Iranian martial artists. HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 02:58, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Propose merging Category:Martial arts medalists for Iran to Category:Martial arts medalists

Nominator's rationale: Category created by a banned user, as well as a redundant/non-defining category. (here the category includes any medalist, not a specific medal) Mason (talk) 00:13, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• @Smasongarrison: don't you mean delete, instead of rename? The rationale sounds as one for deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Lol, I did mean merge, but to a different merge target. I meant Iranian martial artists, because I wasn't sure whether the creator had moved people into the category or merely added everyone to it. A spot check seemed to indicate that they'd merely been added to the category, but I didn't check all 205 of them. Mason (talk) 22:12, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ok, support alt merge to Category:Iranian martial artists. We do not need unspecified medalists categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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