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October 14

Category:Joint Enclaves in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:16, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Made up term that, at best, rests upon a very loose and ultimately ambiguous use of the term "enclave". WP:OR and WP:NONDEFINING. postdlf (talk) 23:27, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Creator's explanation: I welcome this discussion, because I am in doubt about how best to handle this.
  • As I was adding cities to the Enclaves in the United States, I encountered the issue that, while there are dozens of U.S. cities which are completely surrounded by other cities, there are about an equal number which, though often referred to as enclaves, in fact shared an enclave with another municipality.
  • For example, you could say that Beverly Hills, California is an enclave within Los Angeles, because Los Angeles territory completely surrounds it -- but it doesn't meet the expected enclave criteria of adjoining exactly one other city. Rather, Beverly Hills and West Hollywood are TOGETHER surrounded by Los Angeles.
  • Similarly, Hamtramck and Highland Park TOGETHER are surrounded by the city of Detroit.
  • I note that the article List of enclaves and exclaves (which I have never edited) lists several joint or shared enclaves, including Beverly Hills/West Hollywood and Culver City/Ladera Heights in Los Angeles, Norridge/Harwood Heights in Chicago, Highland Park/Hamtramck in Detroit, Elmwood Place/St. Bernard in Cincinnati, Highland Park/University Park in Dallas, two enclaves in Houston (one with three cities, the other with six). The article refers to several enclaves as "the combination of" a list of cities; in three cases (in Bangladesh, Germany, and the U.S.) they are called "composite enclaves".
  • My intent was NOT to "make up" a term, but to use an ordinary word to describe the situation.
  • If the category is retained, I would advocate changing the category name, to use "shared" instead of "joint". Kestenbaum (talk) 02:40, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Western (genre) film stubs

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The result of the discussion was: upmerge to Category:Western (genre) film stubs and the appropriate [Decade] film stubs category. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:32, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary categories, none of them include enough articles to meet the threshold for stub categories, and they have no hope of being populated. Delete categories, and upmerge templates to Category:Western (genre) film stubs. Fortdj33 (talk) 13:23, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sports governing bodies of Uzbekistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:29, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: duplicate categories, "in" is the convention used in Category:Sports governing bodies in Asia by country Tim! (talk) 08:47, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ancient Jewish history of Roman Republic and Roman Empire eras

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 23#Category:Ancient Jewish history of Roman Republic and Roman Empire eras. ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge or reverse merge overlapping categories. See the picture at the category talk page, the picture makes perfect sense until you realize that in this case the white top category is a history category in and by itself, so that a blue subcategory is redundant. Note: I have tagged all six categories, thus allowing a merge or a reverse merge either way. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:25, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Certainly merge these -- However I wonder whether the Republic/Empire split is a useful one, when the crucial dates are the Fall of Jerusalem in about AD 70 and the final Jewish rebellion in AD 135. I expect there is nothing to include between the foundation of the Republic and about the 70s BC when Pompey conquered the whole region. Thus perhaps merge all to Category:Jews and Judaism in the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire, which may need splitting into categories relating to Judea and the diaspora in exile after the rebellions. Peterkingiron (talk) 18:32, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • (as nom) I wouldn't have an objection against the previous proposal to merge all six categories into one. From Jewish perspective the distinction between Republic and Empire is quite trivial. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 15 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep since these categories focus on specific categories and known periods of Roman history that these changes would destroy. If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it! IZAK (talk)
  • Oppose all merge proposals as they just do away with useful categories from the Roman POV since this is about both Roman and Jewish history and cannot be swung in either direction to come up with artificial reasons to either merge or delete. Thanks. IZAK (talk) 21:30, 16 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • The proposal as originally nominated does not propose to merge categories from different Roman eras or different Jewish eras, it just proposes to merge categories with an identical scope. That is not a very artificial reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 17 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christian music genres

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 23#Category:Christian music genres. ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the category hinders navigation in the sense that if you are in Category:Christian music it's not very intuitive that the well populated Category:Church music and Category:Contemporary Christian music can only be found via this genres category. A direct link would be much more transparent. Besides a categorization by genre is a bit questionable at this level, the music genre is actually "religious music" so this category contains sub-sub-genres. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:01, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedians au Canada

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The result of the discussion was: merge, relying on the definition of "au" as "à + le" in the Collins French-English Dictionary. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:48, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not 100% certain of the intent of this category, but seems duplicative of Wikipedians in Canada. VegaDark (talk) 07:19, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sports organisations of Guatemala

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The result of the discussion was: merge. -- Black Falcon (talk) 03:43, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: duplicate categories; z spelling would match parent Category:Organizations based in Guatemala Tim! (talk) 07:02, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Homeland's Gratitude Medal recipients

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The result of the discussion was: delete. -- Black Falcon (talk) 04:38, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:ARBITRARYCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
The Homeland's Gratitude Medal comes in different grades for 20, 15, 10 and 5 years of service in the Croatian armed forces. Serving in the military is defining but receiving an award for serving an arbitrary number of years is not. I listed the recipients of the award here.- RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notified Asalrifai as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Croatia. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Recipients of the Order of Al-Said

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The result of the discussion was:  Relisted at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 October 23#Category:Recipients of the Order of Al-Said. ℯxplicit 05:13, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:PERFCAT and WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING)
When foreign leaders visit Oman, or vice versa, one of these awards is given out as souvenir to commemorate the visit. Japanese Emeperor Akihito, Malaysian Sultan Perak, and Queen Elizabeth all have received two of these awards while none of the recipients are from Oman. If you want to see the clutter this type of category creates at the article level, take a look the train wreck at the bottom of this article. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I notified Mimich as the category creator and I added this discussion to WikiProject Oman. – RevelationDirect (talk) 00:31, 14 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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