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March 12

Seasons and winter by country

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 08:53, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per this earlier discussion. These are new-created categories after the previous discussion started. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:41, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I'm a little surprised additional categories were created when the existing ones were already nominated for deletion with a couple votes to delete. I don't see a speedy criteria here though. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • @RevelationDirect: "Surprised" meaning it wasn't okay? I disagree. The other categories were almost immediately nominated after creation, and the immediate comments didn't convince me as being conclusive. So I certainly needed the opportunity to prove my concept. I have to admit not to be completely convinced that I succeeded with collecting enough material, so as the creator I remain neutral on these for now, but I disagree with the rude ways a totally plausible, though maybe not yet content-rich category tree has been treated. Also I insist this to be the preliminary outcome without prejudice against recreation if someone manages to collect more material. --PanchoS (talk) 12:04, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Surprised meaning I'm not sure it was a good use of your time or ours. I have no objection to recreating if more content appears, like with winter in Canada and the US. RevelationDirect (talk) 12:24, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@RevelationDirect: Well, I devoted some more time to these, as I firmly believed in the merits of the seasons and specifically winter being a useful concept of categorizing content. I actually still do. See how Category:Winter by country is a massive category tree on Commons. Don't say this translates 1:1 to Wikipedia, but the foreign-language equivalents of Category:Winter have quite some localized content that in an international Wikipedia such as the English one would be best organized on a per-country base. Plausible categories, and often enough even implausible ones, normally would have gotten at least a few weeks or months in time to develop. These ones didn't, okay, so there you go. Not my fault, except for being a bit too bold in the first place. I considered this to be so obvious that a more tactical approach didn't even come into my mind. --PanchoS (talk) 12:45, 14 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Kingdom of Tahiti

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The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 08:57, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, it only contains an eponymous article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:45, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:1912 establishments in Saint Helena

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The result of the discussion was: change parent of this category to Category:Establishments in Saint Helena and Dependencies by year. The rename suggested in the nomination would go against precedent by using an anachronistic name. The main objection the the nominated category seems to be that it has spawned an unnecessary superstructure of parent categories. I will merge and restructure the parents so that there is only one hierarchy for establishments, e.g. Category:20th-century establishments in Saint Helena and Dependencies can include the years before 1922 when St Helena had no dependencies. As there are not yet any Establishments categories beyond 2009, the establishments categories can be left at the older "…and Dependencies" name for now, rather than the current "Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha".
Beyond the Establishments categories, I have not merged the years/decades/20th century in Saint Helena categories to match that whole Territory, because they form part of a hierarchy with later categories in Category:Years of the 21st century in Saint Helena which seem to refer to political events specific to St Helena. There has been insufficient tagging or notification to claim consensus for merging all "Saint Helena" categories by period to match Category:History of Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha. – Fayenatic London 09:36, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and move to the tree of Category:Establishments in Saint Helena and Dependencies, per WP:NARROWCAT. Saint Helena was the main island of the former Saint Helena and Dependencies, this 1912 category is the only year category of Saint Helena alone. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:32, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge -- This whole tree contains one article. This is a modest sized island colony. Tristran da Cunha had only a small population. I am not sure what population Ascension had, but it is now largely a military base. I would suggest the article should be directly in a category for St Helena (or it and dependencies) and also Category:1912 establishments in the British Empire. Placing it in a continental category seems inappropriate since it is in the midst of an ocean. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:40, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Establishments in Penang

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The result of the discussion was: rename/delete as specified. MER-C 10:05, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and move to the tree of Category:Establishments in the Straits Settlements, per WP:NARROWCAT, the categories refer to the period in which Penang was not an independent country but rather part of the British Straits Settlements. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:35, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scholars and Category:Academics

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 19:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: fgnievinski (talk) 04:19, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yet, the type of subcategories in Category:Scholars is completely different from that in Category:Academics. I'm afraid it'll become very messy when we merge them. It may be more meaningful, in every instance when there is a pair of categories for Academics and for Scholars, to have Academics consistently as a child category of Scholars, such that single articles in the Scholars category only contain non-academics. And if there aren't any non-academics, the scholars parent can simply be deleted. For example (that's already the case): Category:French academics is a child category of Category:French scholars, so scholars who are directly in the scholars category are presumably non-academics (or if they are academics, they should be moved down). Marcocapelle (talk) 12:03, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- We might have the target as a parent to the others. I think the mischief here is categorising academics as scholars. There is a see also link. We need to apply a narrow definition to scholars, so that academics are excluded from it. St Thomas Aquinas was clearly a scholar, but not an academic. People should only have a scholars category if they are not academics (save by parenting). Peterkingiron (talk) 19:48, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scholars by specialty or field of research

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Scholars by subfield (the word after "by" is usually singular). – Fayenatic London 20:02, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: harmonize with parent Category:Subfields by academic discipline. fgnievinski (talk) 04:16, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Categories by field

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The result of the discussion was: keep. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:57, 31 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Academic field redirects to Discipline (academia) fgnievinski (talk) 03:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose (as Category creator) - First and most obvious, this is not "Categories by academic field" -- it's "Categories by field". That's because not all of the contents are "academic fields". Furthermore, ALL of the sub-categories are, in fact, Categories by field -- it's right there in their names -- which is why I grouped them together under this umbrella category in the first place. Bottom line: this proposal just doesn't make sense. I do want to thank User:Fgnievinski for taking the trouble to notify me of this CFD. Cgingold (talk) 01:59, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Philosophy by field

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:32, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: not to be confused subfields of philosophy (Category:Branches of philosophy) fgnievinski (talk) 03:50, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Arab fascists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. Charles Essie (talk) 03:11, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Still seems possible that there's scope for expansion, even if we don't have all that many articles now - the topic isn't self-limiting like those listed at WP:SMALLCAT. Grutness...wha? 22:51, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • DElete -- "Fascist" refers to an Italian political party. Elsewhere it is a term of abuse by opponents. I have no objection to an article, but am very dubious of having a category, without editorial POV being required. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:52, 13 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Recipients of the Médaillon Des Deux Épées

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:42, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OCAWARD (WP:NONDEFINING) and WP:SMALLCAT
During the late 1700s, if you served in the French military for 24 years, you would automatically be given this award which would reduce your chore schedule. The only article in the category (Jean Thurel) is known for his longevity: he served for 90 years and, therefore, automatically received the award 3 times. - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Notified Asalrifai as the category creator and this discussion has been included in WikiProject Awards and prizes. – RevelationDirect (talk) 03:00, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fields of application of statistics

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 11:30, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: As in rest of Category:Applied disciplines. fgnievinski (talk) 02:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Branches of sociology (interdisciplinary)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 11:30, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: reorder phrasing fgnievinski (talk) 02:51, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:New Zealand Crown owned entities

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The key article is at the official name, this should match. Alternatively, the more common term could be retained, but grammar dictates that a hyphen should be added to the current title to make it Category:New Zealand Crown-owned entities. Grutness...wha? 00:06, 12 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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