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Category:FEI World Cup Jumping 2010/11
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Category:Places of Lord Buddha visited
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Nominator's rationale:Rename. These definitely have the potential to be overapplied, but if kept and used in a limited way as they seem to be right now, they should at least use proper English phrasing. I also suggest using "Gautama Buddha" per Gautama Buddha and Category:Gautama Buddha and its other subcategories. Good Ol’factory(talk)22:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Having someone having visited somewhere is not notable. Where he was born or died, Deer Park--those can all be categorized under Category:Gautama Buddha, but having simply gone somewhere (especially since he was a traveling monk!) is trivial. If kept, speedy rename per main article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:06, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support The argument that these are not notable is ridiculous, even for Justin. They all became huge pilgrimage sites, and mostly remain so. I would prefer [[:Category:Sites [in India] visited by Gautama Buddha]], or "associated with", but the nomed names are clear. Perhaps one should work in a "believed to have been" or something, since the identity of the modern sites with names in historical sources is not accepted by all authorities I think. Johnbod (talk) 21:30, 14 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
All the recorded ones became pilgrimage sites, but not all Buddhist pilgrimage sites are places he visited. The category and the name are more specific, which is a good thing. Most of the places concerned are best known, or entirely known, for this. Your objection seems without merit. Johnbod (talk) 07:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's as I said in the nomination: given the name, it has the potential to be overapplied to any place G.B. visited, but they are currently being used in a limited, appropriate way, on articles that are notable for the connection. Good Ol’factory(talk)09:25, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the ones that are in the category are pretty much the only ones recorded. Indian cities, never mind villages, are notoriously mobile over long historic periods. Johnbod (talk) 14:38, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tennis players of Eastern-European descent
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Overcategorization; not part of an overall scheme. It makes sense to categorize tennis players by nationality. I see categorizing them by ethnicity or general geographic origin, as here, to be overcategorization. Good Ol’factory(talk)22:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Second Wranglers
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Keep – this was extensively debated at cfd and drv a year or so ago. A contentious nomination such as this should include links to previous discussions and should apprise related wikiprojects - eg Cambridge University and mathematics. Occuli (talk) 21:10, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was not in any way secret (pre-1909): quite the reverse, there was extensive prior speculation and the result was greeted with international coverage and acclaim, like a mathematical X-Factor. (An idea for Simon Cowell, perhaps.) I am not advocating the inclusion of anyone post-1909. Occuli (talk) 08:01, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Senior Wranglers
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. WP:OC#TRIVIA: Non-defining or trivial characteristic. These two categories (senior and second wranglers) consist of people who came first or second in the Cambridge university undergraduate mathematics exam. There is already a complete list of such people at Wranglers of the University of Cambridge so there is no need to use the category system for additional incomplete lists. r.e.b. (talk) 21:00, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – this was extensively debated at cfd and drv a year or so ago. A contentious nomination such as this should include links to previous discussions and should apprise related wikiprojects - eg Cambridge University and mathematics. Occuli (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Both the comments above refer to the post-1909 period, but the notability of the Senior Wrangler position goes back to the 19th century. Then it was extremely public and notable and the proportion of people in the list at Wranglers of the University of Cambridge from that period who have articles attests to this. Yes, it is an odd position, but a general reading of the history of 19th century UK will show how significant the Wrangler position was. It might look as if compares to other validictorians, but it is very different. --Bduke(Discussion)23:01, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Islamic conquests
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Rename to Category:Military spread of Islam. Conquest is a hard to define term, especially since some such as Timur's invasion of Georgia was a short-lived thing. There is no good reason to seperate various military actions, and in the case of India some things were more short-term invasions that full-fledged conquests.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:49, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Pope Pius XII theology
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Category:20th century in Boston, Massachusetts
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Nominator's rationale:Delete. Category appears to have been created to match one on commons. Basically this category is so broad as to be useless. It can include anything that happened in the city over that 100 years. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. This is not the only category like this, there are several others, so this will test the waters and see where consensus is on this category structure. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:03, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This diffuses categories about the 20th century in the United States (which would be unwieldy) and Massachusetts (much more reasonable) as well as the history of Boston. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:08, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If the 20th-century in Boston is too unwiedly, than merging this into a general Boston category is even worse. The 19th century cat has 285 or so articles. This is a workable setup, at least for cities with long and involved histories.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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