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Please add new requests at the top of the list, preferably with a link to the parent category (in case of C2C) or relevant article (in case of C2D).

– C2D: both Universities have been renamed. Rename for consistency with Homs University & Latakia University.–yeagvr · ✉ 13:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opposed requests

  • What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
  • See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On hold pending other discussion

Moved to full discussion

Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh is an empty category so it could have just been tagged for CSD C1 or moved without going through CFD. Liz Read! Talk! 08:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It became empty after the nominator moved the two entries to the proposed target. I will now move them back and will move the category in 48h provided no objections have been raised against speedy move. Ymblanter (talk) 08:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Current discussions

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December 28

NEW NOMINATIONS

Category:Muntjac

Nominator's rationale: Most other taxon categories use either the scientific name (Muntiacus for this genus) or a plural common name. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:18, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Flash television shows

Nominator's rationale: Better title for the category, to match with its subcategories. 2803:C600:8101:80DD:BC28:5B0:38B5:F109 (talk) 14:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video game video content

Nominator's rationale: The are multiple concerns I have with this category: one the content being a bit of a mix bag of things, however I'm more concerned with the bizarre name for this category; I believe this current name is very unhelpful for most readers. Shouldn't the name of this category be "video game footage" or "recordings of video games" instead? The current name is honestly very off-putting and could be confused with any video on the internet related to video games; not just footage of gameplay which I clearly understand that that's what it's supposed to be for. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 06:31, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Works featuring video games

Nominator's rationale: I was going to nominate this category like a month ago but forgot all about it, but I'm doing it now. Anyway, this category has bizarre trait; and potentially non-defining. No other category has a trait similar to this one (___ featuring a type of work; whatever you actually mean by that). I'll leave up to you to share your opinions on whether or not this category should be deleted. If it deleted, where else where would we categorize the article DVP (song)? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 06:17, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Music commissioned by the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra

Nominator's rationale: The official English name is Frankfurt Radio Symphony. Grimes2 (talk) 01:47, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]



December 27

Category:Podujevo

Nominator's rationale: I do not see the difference between these two cartegories. Robby (talk) 23:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:WikiProject Lanka Premier League participants

Nominator's rationale: The project does not exist anymore. Gonnym (talk) 09:34, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Adding sibling as suggested by Vestrian24Bio
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 18:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh

Nominator's rationale: delete, Chhattisgarh exists since the year 2000 so nothing could have been established as early as 1975. It was part of Madhya Pradesh. If not merged, rename to Category:1975 establishments in Chhattisgarh because of a typo. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:3rd millennium auto races

Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERCAT, this is unnecessarily specific. Motorsport has only been around for roughly a century, albeit one which happens to span a millenium change. Giraffer (talk) 13:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok maybe the title is wrong but the purpose was to have a cat for races instituted in last decade or millenium like a category 'races by decades'. I know there are no other cats categories yet, but if we go back, ho how can we grow? gtp (talk) 14:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Races by decade may be a useful category, but I think races by millenium is not (especially given that we're only talking about a ~100 year period). I have no idea what your last sentence means. Giraffer (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Corrected my previous reply). My idea was to have century categories XXI, XX and (maybe) XIX century: if we look far in the future wikipedia, it is a good beginning. For the same reason spanning milleniums seems overcat. but today it means 2 categories (2nd and 3rd) instead of 3 (centuries) so...I've been bold. The purpose of such bi-categorization would have some logic if we consider major endurance races were founded after prior '60s or after 2000s. Not in the middle. gtp (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Needed-Class articles

Nominator's rationale: This category is empty, and I think it always will be. No WikiProjects have Needed-Class subcategories. The way to handle needed articles is to list them at WP:Requested articles. If one is created as a draft, a redirect, a disambig or a stub (or better), then each of those have their relevant Class. That is to say, if we create a page for a needed article as a redirect, then it should be in Redirect-Class, and could only be in Needed-Class if somebody manually added it there as well.
I considered just renaming the category from articles to pages, as this is currently an exception among the non-article classes listed at WP:Assess. As soon as it's an article, then it's a stub or better. But if it's not an article, them it must be one of the other classes e.g. redirect. So, it's not needed.
WP:ASSESS gives the example of Free City Of Mainz as of 2018, but that has since been written, and was a redirect then. "Needed-Class" does not seem to have been discussed on the talk page of that project page since 2009, when talk pages were allowed in isolation.
Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_April_14#Category:Needed-Class_articles was closed as Keep, but that was when projects had Needed-Class subcats. Category:Needed-Class former country articles was deleted under WP:G6 by Explicit in Oct 2023, apparently after this template edit by MSGJ to "use standard extended scale".
Interwiki links show that 3 other Wikipedias currently have this category, but only one (Chinese) has anything within it, and that's just 3 empty topical subcats.
If deletion is approved, this should be listed on the CFD/W/Manual page, as various templates will need to be amended. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Women's firsts in the film industry

Nominator's rationale: or Merge with Category:Women film pioneers. Very vague category parameters. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Baseball players from Fayette County, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:17, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Novels by theme

Nominator's rationale: See longer explanation at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Games#"Theme"_category_problem_started_by_Category:Games_by_genre_or_theme. This is the least controversial (if anything is). It is subcat to Category:Fiction books by topic, there is no Category:Themes or 'by themes' anywhere except in few instances I pointed out in the linked analysis; all themes should be rename to topics since we have a cat tree for topics, not themes. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • PS. I did not notice the target already exists. Well, merge instead of renaming then, I guess. Duplicate concept. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Just delete, most subcategories are already in Category:Novels about interpersonal relationships which is a subcategory of Category:Novels by topic. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - I'm looking at the two category trees, and at Theme (narrative), and I'm wondering if perhaps we should be looking at a reverse merge. I agree that we don't need both trees. I think the prevailing term for these is theme, rather than topic. And maybe that will help remove the inaccurate usage of "x and genre" named categories as well. All that said, having Works with X themes opens up to really broad categories, because, using novels as an example, the "theme" could be be due to a mere sentence, a paragraph, a chapter, or throughout the book. I'm not sure how to best resolve that. The difficulty, of course is that we're at the whim of the author's free usage of whatever themes they may decide to toss into a work, regardless of whether it furthers the overall plot (or narrative structure), or not. It would be nice if we could standardize all of the subcats into Works about X. At least that makes it (sort of) clear that it's about the the entire work than merely parts of it. Anyone else have any thoughts on these? Maybe we can come up with a standard for going forward. - jc37 21:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Jc37 Are you suggesting we should rename everything in Category:Works by topic to Category:Works by theme? That would be much more work than what I suggested in the linked discussion (where I propose to rename the very few theme categories to topic categories). Might be best to discuss it there? I don't have a preference, to be honest, except I want to see standardized terminology, and it seems theme and topic mean the same thing here. But yes, I see your point that a work can have one topic but more than one theme, but is it really that clear? I am pretty sure many entities are categorized as having multiple themes. Ex. Wolfenstein 3D has cats related to 'Adolf Hitler', 'Experimental medical treatments', 'WW2' and 'Nazi Germany'. Those all seem like topics/themes to me (although the category trees are somewhat convoluted...). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:44, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 26

Category:12th-century Burmese poets

Nominator's rationale: Duel merge this isolated underpopulated category. SMasonGarrison 22:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:12th-century Algerian poets

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is isolated, with only one person it in. Notably, there isn't a Category:12th-century Algerian people SMasonGarrison 21:57, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cathedrals in fiction

Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, all articles are about creative works. The proposed name aligns with Category:Works set in churches. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional religious places

Nominator's rationale: Only one article in here and it's already better categorized elsewhere. It is unlikely to be filled with enough articles to justify a category (and flooding it with redirects would be bad form and duplicate the organization at Category:Church buildings in fiction). Jontesta (talk) 18:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ambassadors of Costa Rica to Czechoslovakia

Nominator's rationale: Only 1 entry. Also merge with Category:Ambassadors to Czechoslovakia LibStar (talk) 17:27, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Syrian Kurdish feminists

Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This is an underpopulated category with only one person in it. SMasonGarrison 13:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Baseball players from Edwards County, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Baseball players from Cooke County, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Baseball players from Comanche County, Texas

Nominator's rationale: Category with just two entries. Lost in Quebec (talk) 13:40, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fiction about monsters

Nominator's rationale: rename similar to other subcategories in Category:Legendary creatures in popular culture. Also: remove Category:speculative fiction by topic as a parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:34, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Future decades in mass media and film

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. No need to merge somewhere, the content is already part of e.g. Category:Fiction set in the 2030s. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:19, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Until some film release dates are scheduled for the 2030s, these categories are useless beyond the setting categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Writing systems by century

Nominator's rationale: merge, poorly populated categories, this way it is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Not many writing systems exist. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:06, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Schwartz family (television)

Nominator's rationale: Similar to Category:Roberts family (journalism), this category is all journalists and can be more specific. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:12, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pyne banking family

Nominator's rationale: To match Category:Stern family (banking) and Category:Mack family (banking). (Not quite enough to make this Speedy.) Mike Selinker (talk) 06:08, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Jacobs family (telecom)

Nominator's rationale: This is a subcategory of Category:Telecommunications company families so "telecom" should be spelled out. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Audiovisual introductions

Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article categories, unhelpful for navigation. A second merge target isn't really necessary, two articles are already in Category:Precursors of film and for the other articles it is quite a stretch to say that they are about audiovisual technology. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:29, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Analog Drum Machine

Nominator's rationale: I don't work with categories much, so I have no opinion about whether this category is needed at all. However, if we're going to keep it, it should be renamed "Analog drum machines" (sentence case, plural) for consistency with category names per WP:CATNAME. Popcornfud (talk) 20:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:17th-century Lithuanian philosophers

Nominator's rationale: Isolated category. Upmerge for now. SMasonGarrison 21:28, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Biography articles without living parameter

Nominator's rationale: The living parameter of {{WikiProject Biography}} has been merged with the blp parameter in {{WikiProject banner shell}}, so the title of this category is no longer accurate. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 23:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 02:22, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Do not capitalize because the actual parameter name is all lowercase. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mata'utia family (rugby)

Nominator's rationale: All Mata'utia people with articles are in this category, so I don't think we need a disambiguator. If we do, it should be Category:Mata'utia family (rugby league) because it's a subcategory of Category:Rugby league families. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:14, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename Disambiguation without a base title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:09, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Child family (English bankers)

Nominator's rationale: There's no other Child family in the banking business, so I think we should match all the other subcategories of category:Banking families that need disambiguators. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:10, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Easmon family (Sierra Leone)

Nominator's rationale: Everyone on Easmon is in this category, so I don't think we need the disambiguator here. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:06, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Chandler family (newspaper publishers)

Nominator's rationale: There are no other Chandler family categories, so this could just be Category:Chandler family. But if it needs a disambiguator then it should be "publishing" to match this nomination. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pulitzer family (newspapers)

Nominator's rationale: There aren't any other Pulitzer family categories. Alternatively, we can rename to Category:Pulitzer family (publishing) per this discussion, but there doesn't seem to be much need for disambiguation here. Mike Selinker (talk) 02:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to Category:Pulitzer family as disambiguation without a base title. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

More show business families

Nominator's rationale: Per this discussion and all other subcategories of Category:Show business families. Mike Selinker (talk) 01:54, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 25

Category:Languages attested from 1964

Nominator's rationale: Another single-article category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:24, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brazilian people of Algerian-Jewish descent

Nominator's rationale: Yet another single-article category by ethnicity and nationality. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 22:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brazilian people of Igbo descent

Nominator's rationale: Main article does not exist, and there is only one article in the category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedians in Scouts India

Nominator's rationale: Without even an article on Scouts India this clearly doesn't serve a useful purpose. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Not helpful for contributing to Wikipedia. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:55, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is an article for scouting and guiding in India Iamvivekkj (talk) 02:52, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fantasy by franchise

Nominator's rationale: This is the same thing with the related sci-fi categories. The only two subcategories of this category do not commemorate to the title of this category; wouldn't it be a category for "Fictional things in fantasy worlds by franchise" rather instead? Anyway I cannot see this category being kept. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 19:16, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. It's kinda redundant when media franchises have a genre, a mangling of Category:Fantasy franchises. Contents are Category:Fictional universe of Harry Potter and Category:Middle-earth objects. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:47, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Science fiction by franchise

Nominator's rationale: I just removed some pages in this category and at the moment, this category has shrunk drastically, become redundant and conflicts with the similar category of Category:Science fiction franchises. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 19:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Remaining content is Category:Fictional technology by work, which is two levels below Category:Science fiction themes. @QuantumFoam66: Which subcategories did you remove, and why? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:50, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Mongolian footballers by populated place

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one subcategory. No need to merge. Lost in Quebec (talk) 18:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brazilian people of African descent by ethnicity

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary level of intermediate categorization between Category:Brazilian people of African descent and just two subcategories for African ethnic groups. Both of the two subcategories here are already in Category:Brazilian people of Nigerian descent, meaning they're already appropriately subcategorized within that parent and thus need neither this nor upmerging to the parent. (One of the two subcategories, Category:Brazilian people of Igbo descent, also only has one person in it, and thus may not even be warranted at all if it can't be made more populated than it is. However, I'm just raising it for review, rather than nominating it for deletion here and now, as I don't know whether getting more articles into it is actually possible or not — but I will say that the fact that it's linking an Igbo Brazilians article that doesn't even exist at all as its purported "main article" head isn't promising.) Bearcat (talk) 14:47, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Social media influencers

Nominator's rationale: merge, not a clear distinction between the two categories. This is follow-up on this discussion which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Oppose merge, and oppose deletion. Thanks for the ping. Note the first sentence in the Influencer article states, An influencer, also referred to as an online influencer and social media influencer, is a term traditionally associated with someone who is considered influential., while the first sentence in the Internet celebrity article states, An internet celebrity, also referred to as an internet personality, is an individual who has acquired or developed their fame and notability on the Internet. The point here is that not all influencers are celebrities, e.g., LinkedIn influencers, etc. That said, if you haven't already, please ping and invite the folks at Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet culture to be part of the discussion on this topic as they're the gurus... allowing enough time after the holidays for a response. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:21, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:People from Doubravice nad Svitavou

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:07, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2100s and 2110s

Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Merging isn't needed, the subcategories are kept in the decade tree anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:54, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The respective contents are Category:Films_set_in_the_2100s (first three categories), Category:2114 works (2114), and Category:2110s_in_film (2110s in mass media). Far too soon for anything except what is already there. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 15:03, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths from cerebrovascular disease

Nominator's rationale: containerize, the articles directly in this category are usually about people who died by stroke, which is a far too common cause of death to categorize by. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:31, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support containerizing. It's definitely helpful for navigation. SMasonGarrison 16:59, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leftover mosques categories

Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 12#Mosques 1200-1900; three single-member categories which were inadvertently excluded from the list. BlasterOfHouses (HouseBlaster's alt • talk • he/they) 06:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Cestidae

Nominator's rationale: Cestida is a monotypic order, containing only the family Cestidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:35, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deceased Everest summiters

Nominator's rationale: Selective merge. These are just summiters who are now deceased. For example, Rick Allen (mountaineer) died on K2. Gary Ball died on Dhaulagiri. SMasonGarrison 01:52, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Deaths on Scottish mountains

Nominator's rationale: From looking at the deaths, these are all Mountaineering deaths. Sibling is Category:Mountaineering deaths in Nepal. This is boardline CDC SMasonGarrison 01:47, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 24

Category:Reputed virgins

Nominator's rationale: This category is a veritable can of worms. It might include e.g. presumably the majority of Popes and other RC clergy, and a lot of people who died as children. Should it include people like Arthur, Prince of Wales and Edward Heath? PatGallacher (talk) 21:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:43, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I fail to see virginity as a notable biographical element. Who cares if they could not find any suitable lover? Dimadick (talk) 05:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Hello Girls

Nominator's rationale: Delete and recategorize; this is supposed to be a category for what is known as "Hello Girls" who were switchboard operators but also has women who seemingly had nothing to do with it - not sure how it helps with navigation. Biographical articles should be diverted to Category:Switchboard operators and Category:Telegraphists where appropriate. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:10, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Medieval synagogues by year

Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated single-article categories. Medieval mosques and churches are also not categorized by year. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Many dates in the Middle Ages are uncertain, including at least one of the items in this category (Synagogue of Santa María la Blanca, c. 1205). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:53, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Regencies of Bangka Belitung Islands

Nominator's rationale: Check out "The#Geographic usage" and "wikt:the#Usage notes", along with the naming of subcategories of Category:Bangka Belitung Islands. Wikihistorian (talk) 12:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American social media influencers

Nominator's rationale: Is this really a defining category that's distinct from American Internet celebrities? SMasonGarrison 04:52, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • YouTubers and TikTokers were exactly my point. We already have categories for them. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:10, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I may have written unclearly. My point was that YouTuber and social media influencer are separately notable. Michael Sugrue was a YouTuber, but to call him an "influencer" would to me seem to be misunderstanding the genre of his content (education in the history of philosophy). It's possible to be an Internet celebrity, or a noteworthy/notable person on the Internet, without being a social media influencer, making it useful to have influencers as a subcategory. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 06:01, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Deaths from cardiovascular disease

Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination. This cat was tagged for speedy deletion as G4. There was indeed a CfD back in 2021 where this was deleted by consensus. I declined the speedy because this was a lot of material to remove without a discussion, and IMHO I felt this call was just outside of the trust of the community for any one single trusted user. I have no interest in the outcome. BusterD (talk) 13:05, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding on the previous: if the category is not kept then at least the subcategories should be moved to Category:Deaths by type of illness. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:00, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose Both defining, and relatively easy to locate available sources on it. Dimadick (talk) 14:43, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from the Crown of Castile

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. If merged, this category should be left as a redirect. If not merged, I think we need an extremely clear definition of how these categories are distinct. SMasonGarrison 17:01, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from the Crown of Aragon

Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories. SMasonGarrison 16:58, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Decades in history

Nominator's rationale: merge, no clear distinction versus their parent category. The decades as a whole are, or will become, part of history. The merge needs to happen manually because many articles are already in, e.g., Category:2000s decade overviews. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
the category Category: 2020s in history has a few highly useful and highly specific roles ; a) it is for articles describing history in a broad narrative style , namely, 2020s in history, 2020s in military history, 2020s in Asian history, etc etc. and b) it is also for sub-categories pertaining to that decade's history, such as Category: 2020s in military history, Category:2020s in women's history, etc; so clearly those are not limited only to articles that are decade overviews.
And Category:2020s is clearly a broad umbrella category, with hugely wide scope, so it is not interchangeable with this category. Sm8900 (talk) 19:52, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Non-governmental organizations

Nominator's rationale: Note that I'm proposing purging rather than deletion; however, there may be a case to be made that deletion might be preferable due to the scope of the problem.
The term does have a technical definition, but is routinely overused to the point of meaninglessness in the real world, encompassing nearly any organization that exists at all regardless of whether it fits the technical definition of an "NGO" or not — so previous discussions (e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 April 5#Category:Non-governmental organizations by country) have established a consensus that trying to categorize for the distinction between organizations that are "non-governmental" and organizations that are not "non-governmental" was not a productive use of wikipedians' time and energy. Accordingly, the category explicitly has a usage note on it saying "This is not a category for articles about individual organizations", as well as a {{Diffuse}} template on it, but unsurprisingly is quite populated by articles about individual organizations. Bearcat (talk) 03:01, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People who have sacrificed their lives to save others

Nominator's rationale: Vague and nondefining category SMasonGarrison 16:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I find this preposterous. How is this vague? Should it be "People who have knowingly sacrificed their lives to save others"? "People who have knowingly died when directly acting to save others"? Blockhaj (talk) 17:26, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Engineers from Jharkhand

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:24, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alvarado wrestling family

Nominator's rationale: Opposed on Speedy. The article is at Alvarado wrestling family but this is a subcategory of Category:Professional wrestling families, so I thought the rename made sense. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:32, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Oppose moving to "category:wrestling families". Professional wrestling is not the same thing as wrestling. They share similar moves, but it's similar to the difference between a Ballerina and a Gymnast.Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 08:22, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Arab supporters of Israel

Nominator's rationale: This category should either be renamed to be consistent with the child categories of Algerian Zionists etc, or the subcategories should be purged or renamed. Being a Zionist doesn't mean that you support the state of Israel. Zionism advocates for a Jewish homeland; not all Zionists support the state of Israel. And people who support Israel don't need to do so because of Zionism. @AHI-3000: for making me aware of the category naming discrepancy SMasonGarrison 03:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support and also rename Category:Muslim supporters of Israel to Category:Muslim Zionists, in order to match it with Category:Arab Zionists and Category:Christian Zionists. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:32, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination. But you need to tag it. SMasonGarrison 03:50, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: I already placed the CFD template on Category:Muslim supporters of Israel. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:55, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: Should we combine #Category:Muslim supporters of Israel into this discussion? AHI-3000 (talk) 04:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"I'm fine with adding the category to the nomination" SMasonGarrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Supporters of Israel are explicitly Zionists. Dimadick (talk) 03:34, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes indeed. @Smasongarrison doesn't agree though, even though almost everyone agrees that "Zionist" is usually used to mean "supporter of Israel". These meanings are far from being mutually exclusive. AHI-3000 (talk) 03:41, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's the point of tagging me? I literally made the nomination. I don't disagree that the common understanding is that these are often used as synonyms. SMasonGarrison 03:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So do you agree or not that Category:Muslim supporters of Israel is an appropriate subcategory of Category:Zionists? AHI-3000 (talk) 03:51, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's not appropriate until it is renamed. SMasonGarrison 04:54, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Engineers from Himachal Pradesh

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:22, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Substituted amphetamines

Nominator's rationale: Per opposed WP:CFDS request:
Extended content
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Category:Neapolitan families

Nominator's rationale: A request to rename to Category:Families from Naples was opposed on Speedy, in favor of this better name. Mike Selinker (talk) 03:26, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of religious buildings and structures in East Timor

Nominator's rationale: And other parents. Part of a mass cleanup after the recent rename of East Timor's article to Timor-Leste. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both the nominated and nominee categories are likely to be speedy-renamed now. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Politicians arrested in Turkey

Nominator's rationale: SMasonGarrison 02:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per reasoning below. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Politicians arrested in the Maldives

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining intersection between being arrested for a crime and occupation. SMasonGarrison 02:51, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. We don't classify people by having been arrested. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 03:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Aim for the Top! images

Nominator's rationale: The official English name of "Aim for the Top!" (トップをねらえ!) is Gunbuster. Although Diebuster has its own name, in releases in English-speaking markets, it often has Gunbuster 2 (or "GunBuster 2") as another name used in conjunction with Diebuster. Furthermore, Gaina is working on Gunbuster 3. In addition, I created a category on Wikimedia Commons, commons:Category:Gunbuster, for that reason. Z. Patterson (talk) 01:38, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In addition, I wanted to add that a similar example of having the original name is the Neon Genesis Evangelion category, encompassing Neon Genesis Evangelion, Rebuild of Evangelion, and spin-offs. I figured that by following Evangelion's example, Gunbuster, as the franchise is known by its original name, could be more easily identified and more streamlined across the English-language Wikipedia. Z. Patterson (talk) 01:45, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 23

Category:Shooting civilians following mistaken identification

Nominator's rationale: This current name is awkward. My best attempt right now is "Accidental civilian shootings", but I'd love better ideas. I'm also not sure if this counts as defining, so that's also worth discussing. SMasonGarrison 22:48, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The proposed name, Category:Accidental civilian shootings, is much broader than the current name, it includes many accidents while using the weapon (cleaning it, checking it, etc). It is a different category. דוד שי (talk) 04:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Ambassadors of Algeria to Libya

Nominator's rationale: Delete for now. As JPL pointed on out my talk page, the only person (Mohamed Larbi Zitout) in this category isn't an ambassador. They're a regular diplomat/civil servant. I've added them to Algerian expatriates in Libya, so there's no need to merge SMasonGarrison 22:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Association football families needing disambiguation

Nominator's rationale: Several other subcategories of Category:Association football families, such as Category:Ball family (association football), use the full (and in this case, British) name of the sport to disambiguate. Typically, the disambiguator for any family category is a noun describing the occupation generally, not a grouping of practitioners like "footballers." Mike Selinker (talk) 05:29, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • A couple more to add to this nomination:
If this goes through, of course. Mike Selinker (talk) 05:46, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Brown family (bankers of Baltimore)

Nominator's rationale: I don't see any other categories of families named Brown in banking, and it should use the occupation name like Category:Stern family (banking). Mike Selinker (talk) 05:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Neutral as category creator. When trying to come up with the title, I associated the family first with the city, but there were other Browns in Baltimiore so I added the bankers part. If banking alone is recognisable and precise enough then it should be fine. --Paul_012 (talk) 06:21, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alltuni family

Nominator's rationale: only an eponymous page and one family member, which isn't helpful for navigation. Delete for now. SMasonGarrison 19:43, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Category-Class United States articles of NA-importance

Nominator's rationale: All 171,000 pages (not articles) in this category all already a member of Category:Category-Class United States articles or Category:Category-Class United States pages on the one hand, and Category:NA-importance United States articles or Category:NA-importance United States pages on the other hand. Considering that all category-class pages are NA-importance by definition anyway, this means that we have three ways of expressing the same thing here, making this a superfluous combined category. Fram (talk) 10:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wives of Louis XII

Nominator's rationale: Very small category with no prospect of expansion in which all articles are already categorised within Category:Queens consort of France. Celia Homeford (talk) 09:55, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Three wives is a perfectly reasonable size for this type of category. Dimadick (talk) 10:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional gnomes

Nominator's rationale: Are there non-fictional gnomes? Fram (talk) 08:42, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. While I'm not sure we have the right names for the categories, separate categorization strikes me as more helpful than not. Thinking about navigating categories as a reader, I would find it more confusing than clarifying if I find articles about medieval folklore like the Dutch legends about Kabouter next to pop cultural creations like cereal mascots Snap, Crackle, and Pop. As for whether there's a distinction, while the borders can be fuzzy and are socially constructed, as with lots of things in humanities about stories of non-reality like mythology, pop mascots, literature, etc., it's not original to us as Wikipedians to note a distinction that society has made. (See for instance A Companion to Folklore (Blackwell Publishing, 2012) for discussion of both the sometimes-association and sometimes-differentiation in society between folklore and forms of fiction like literature). Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 02:05, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, this reminds me of the difference in fairytales between the oral tradition and ones that originated with named authors. For the authored ones, some are written for children, some to express feminism, some as adult horror stories etc etc etc. --Northernhenge (talk) 14:29, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional proposal: create Category:Legendary gnomes as also a subcategory of Category:Legendary creatures. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:02, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fantasy video game characters by franchise

Nominator's rationale: The following category feels incredibly out-of-place given the fact that there currently no other categories for "Fantasy __ characters by franchise" other than this one, and the "Fantasy video game characters" itself only has only other category; making this category ultimately unhelpful. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Also to Category:Video game characters by franchise. An unnecessary intersection by genre and medium. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:26, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 22

Category:Same-sex marriage in Africa by country

Nominator's rationale: Based in this CfD.--MikutoH talk! 21:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:2,6-Dihydroxybiphenyls

Nominator's rationale: Category only contains one page, and cannot be easily expanded: only two pages are in both Category:Biphenyls and Category:Resorcinols, only one of which is actually a 2,6-dihydroxybiphenyl. Preimage (talk) 16:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Fictional insectivores

Nominator's rationale: We don't have a category for insectivores, so it's odd to keep a category for fictional insectivores. Furthermore, while hedgehogs do eat insects, they are in fact omnivores so their presence in the category is questionable. All entries and subcategories are already categorized as Category:Fictional mammals. Pichpich (talk) 15:04, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Pharmacy schools in Virginia

Nominator's rationale: Category only contains 1 entry. LibStar (talk) 14:39, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Christians

Nominator's rationale: merge, unnecessary and arbitrary distinction, nothing became different about being a Christian or about sainthood at the Council of Nicea. The Edict of Milan was probably more impactful on being a Christian, but still it does not make too much sense to create container categories for three and two centuries respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:09, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Rebellions against the Ottoman Empire

Nominator's rationale: They should be merged. They have same meaning. MRTFR55 (talk) 12:36, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Slavery in Italy

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:56, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Boycotts of apartheid South Africa

Nominator's rationale: rename, better grammar. (I am definitely open to other suggestions.) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rape in video games

Nominator's rationale: Move to a defining name from a non-defining name. I have nominated this category for renaming rather than trying to speedy it because many of the games in it have rape as a non-defining aspect of the story. There seem to be enough to justify a category of games where it is defining to the game, but it will have to be manually purged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:58, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Trees of the Eastern United States

Nominator's rationale: As with previous discussions on tree categories this will eliminate an inconsistently used category. It will reduce the amount of WP:OVERCAT and be similar to two previous mergers of all the national categories for tree to the umbrella Category:Trees of Europe in 2015 and the North American state and provincial categories in 2023. I suspect that all the species are already categorized in Trees of Northern America, but just in case I'm moving for a merge rather than a delete. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 17:39, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Zhejiang Daily Newspaper Group

Nominator's rationale: The official name TinaLees-Jones (talk) 02:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:West Slavic nobility

Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category that's just a container category SMasonGarrison 02:10, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Henry Ford Community College alumni

Nominator's rationale: The article Henry Ford Community College has been renamed to Henry Ford College GoingBatty (talk) 00:30, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Premierships in Canada

Nominator's rationale: Differentiation from subnational premierships. RedBlueGreen93 00:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lists articles from both of Macdonald's non-consecutive terms as prime minister. RedBlueGreen93 00:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lists articles from both of Trudeau's non-consecutive terms as prime minister. RedBlueGreen93 00:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category lists articles from both of Duplessis's non-consecutive terms as premier. RedBlueGreen93 00:12, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


December 21

Category:Military aircraft of World War I

Nominator's rationale: Header note on the category reads "Most articles about aircraft types that were used in World War I are in one of the 1910–1919 (first flight) categories listed below." - thereby acknoloedging that this is incomplete and is apparently intended to be so. Furthermore, this is one of the "performers by performance" type categories that are discouraged - we generally try not to categorise in this manner, because it can lead to very lengthy category sections for what are, sometimes questionably, defining characteristics (to give an example, is the Grumman F-9 Cougar, for instance, defined by the fact TF-9Js operated briefly in Vietnam?).
If kept, this should be thoroughly expanded to include all of the relevant types within it. The Bushranger One ping only 23:41, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American Profanity

Nominator's rationale: Per above, creator seems confused about what categories are for. Remsense ‥ 论 19:00, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:197 Countries World

Nominator's rationale: Creator seems confused about the purpose of categories, apparent idea totally redundant. Remsense ‥ 论 18:57, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as redundant to Category:Countries, given the category description of These are the Countries of the World. Belbury (talk) 09:22, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Electric power in Syria

Nominator's rationale: Main article is Electricity in Syria Chidgk1 (talk) 16:37, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

ESC/JESC entrant categories

Delete per nom Traumnovelle (talk) 23:51, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom.  dummelaksen  (talk • contribs) 03:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong keep. I don't see how these are different from Category:Olympic competitors by country and Category:Olympic competitors by year cause ESC and JESC are that important and for most artists their participation in the contest(s) is the peak of their career. (And it is their "defining characteristic" cause it is the only thing we remember them for.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:36, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Additional comment. The page that you are basing this proposal on (WP:PERFCAT) actually says at the very top: "One of the central goals of the categorization system is to categorize articles by their defining characteristics. Defining characteristics of an article's topic are central to categorizing the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to."
    And I think it's obvious that most of these artists are remembered by their participation in a Eurovision song contest and that "reliable sources commonly and consistently refer to" these artists as Eurovision entrants for their countries.
    I think this deletion proposal is a good example of following rules blindly. We have some random rule written by a random person, and you are voting "delete" without even thinking a little bit. --Moscow Connection (talk) 13:48, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with this. I'm also new around here in terms of voting for things, how do I do that? 3SiameseCats (talk) 16:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @3SiameseCats: Read WP:Articles for deletion#How to contribute. First write '''Keep''' or '''Delete''' (in bold) and then explain why you are voting like this.
    P.S. I used to think that a comment / "written opinion" is more important than an actual "vote" cause WP:Wikipedia is not a democracy and that simple "votes" without an explanation don't even count, but the people above are just voting and don't contribute to the actual discussion... So maybe '''Keep''' or '''Delete''' "per smth. or somebody's comment" is enough. Or maybe it is even enough to just copy-paste someone else's comment as done by the people who voted "Delete per nom". :-) But I think it is still preferable to explain your vote. --Moscow Connection (talk) 16:26, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Terrorist incidents in Germany in 2022

Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization. There is only one article in the category and it can be merged into the wider parent categories. Unknown Temptation (talk) 13:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Portal-Class Comics articles of NA-importance

Nominator's rationale: All these pages are already in the categories "Portal-Class Comics articles" and "NA-importance Comics articles", ideally they should only be in "Portal-Class Comics articles", which should be a member of "NA-importance Comics articles", and this redundant category can simply be deleted. Fram (talk) 09:01, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably some technical solution for this needs to be found, but when it is implemented, it can also be applied to other types of pages which are always NA, i.e. every page in all subcategories of Category:NA-importance Comics articles except the actual articles cats (stub, start, C, GA, ...) should be removed from "... articles of NA-importance" and "NA-importance comics articles". As an example, Talk:10th Muse is now in three cats, it should only remain in "Redirect-Class Comics articles", and that cat should get "NA-importance comics articles". Simplify by removing redundancy. But I guess this belong at the Village pump, as this seems to happen with some other projects as well, and is presumably too much for the scope of CfD? Fram (talk) 09:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: now at WP:VPPR#Cleaning up NA-class categories. Fram (talk) 15:16, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Template-Class Guyana articles of NA-importance.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:40, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. This intersection is really not helpful in almost all cases. Gonnym (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Members of the Australian House of Representatives by term

Nominator's rationale: Not a defining category and these categories result in career politicians having far too many cats that indicate essentially the same thing. Traumnovelle (talk) 03:08, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Traumnovelle: Are you proposing the deletion of all its subcategories as well? If so, they should be tagged. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. It seemed easier to list the parent than listing 50 categories. Traumnovelle (talk) 04:30, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They might not all need to be listed here, but they should all have the {{subst:cfd}} template placed on them. I used User:Qwerfjkl/scripts/massXFD to quickly tag all the subcategories. jlwoodwa (talk) 06:22, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure that applies to categories. Jevansen (talk) 01:59, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jevansen: Even if I didn't miss it (which I of course did), there are still times where the principles are functionally the same, and in this case this is so. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's an extreme example. It's like using the categorisation of Elizabeth II as an reason to delete Category:Heads of state by country and its sub-categories; or the categorisation of Barack Obama as an reason to delete Category:American people by descent and its sub-categories. The large majority of legislators aren't included in more than a handful of legislators by term categories. We shouldn't be destroying a sensible and useful categorisation structure based on extreme examples.--Obi2canibe (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason I nominated this because 8 categories were added to a politician I had watchlisted, which is just over categorisation. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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