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The result was merge to Golden Gate Transit. MBisanz ^talk 03:51, 23 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Valley of the Moon Commute Club (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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This doesnt seem to be notable enough, a privately owned fleet of no more than 5 buses, for transport to SF? Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:27, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:41, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete Not a notable company, despite occasional mentions in the hyper-local Sonoma press. It's simply a small once-a-day shuttle service. --MelanieN (talk) 15:55, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge The Valley of the Moon Commute Club was previously an extensive transportation program subsidized by the Golden Gate Bridge, Highway and Transportation District through contracts administered by Golden Gate Transit in the Club Bus program. However, the service has been substantially reduced over the years, and its status as a Club Bus service by GGT was recently revoked (i.e., the subsidy was discontinued). The Club Bus program now includes only the Marin Commute Club, and that service is slated for discontinuation after December 31, 2012. My recommendation is that the contents of the Valley of the Moon Commute Club and Marin Commute Club pages be updated at the end of the calendar and merged into a new Club Bus subsection of either the GGBHTD or GGT pages. I recommend the addition be made to the GGT page. -DavDaven (talk) 23:21, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Riley Huntley 01:39, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as non-notable in a fairly large field (bus/transport companies). As for merging, I think this fails the basic notability test of "Would the encyclopedia be any less complete without it?" I don't think the GGT article would be any better an article if it mentioned this company, nor if it mentioned all the companies that operated under its subsidy; just like you don't list any McDonald's franchises (aside from some super-notable ones) at the McDonald's page, there's no need to mention a bus company that doesn't add any knowledge to the GGT article. — Francophonie&Androphilie (Je vous invite à me parler) 08:50, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • To clarify, these are not separate companies. These are rider-organized groups that approached GGT for bus service. This type of subscription bus service is relatively unique within the public transportation industry, and in this case, Club Bus service predated GGT's regular bus transit service. To use the McDonald's analogy, imagine if its customers approached the company and asked for tacos, even though it only makes hamburgers, and the company agreed to make and sell them in a way that kept them off the regular menu. That seems notable to me. A complete GGT article would discuss what Club Bus is, at least to some degree, so that readers can have a better understanding of the history of transit service in the San Francisco Bay Area. The service's affiliation with the Golden Gate Bridge arguably makes the information more notable than comparable services not associated with world-famous transportation facilities. -DavDaven (talk) 17:38, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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