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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:18, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Voted one of the 12 most inspiring leaders is not notability, ,and the rest of the material is on the same order. DGG ( talk ) 09:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: After reading the article. I don't see a reason to keep it. NintendoFan (Talk, Contribs) 22:53, 6 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: The article, it seems to me, meets the notability criteria (WP:BIO). It does contain reliable secondary sources. And in a country like Nigeria, where religious institutions have become another money making venture, it is notable to find a Christian leader known for making social and economic contributions to improve the lives of people within his community. "Voted one of the 12 most inspiring leaders" in a country of over 170 million people does sound like notability to me. I remember making minor contributions to this article and quite agree that it is an orphan article and needs one or two article links. That can be done. Let's keep this article. 08:45, 7 April 2014 (UTC)Kenneth Azino

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: All I can say is that to the best of my knowledge (which I believe is the view of many that really knows him) the only major thing notable about this man is the notability of his first wife. The reason why most African media houses would interview him and write articles about him is because of his wife. If notability can be transferred I can say his wife transferred some to him. lol Darreg (talk) 08:56, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: If possible it should be merged or incorporated into the Bimbo Odukoya article. If a merger is not possible it should be deleted. Darreg (talk) 09:47, 13 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: In my opinion, the external links seem to lend some proof of notability. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwisebaba (talk • contribs) 19:57, 12 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:10, 14 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• KEEP* Nigeria is the biggest black nation on earth and emerging amongst the 12 most inspiring leaders certainly deserves a place in wikipedia. Lets keep this article. abiods2002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.86.153.195 (talk) 18:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Acquaint yourself with WP:GNG and WP:BIO and you would agree with me that he does not REALLY deserve a place on Wikipedia. Even the ranking you are citing is not from a very reputable platform. I am not a novice about the subject in anyway so I know what I am saying. until several reliable citations can talk about the subject independently (about Taiwo and not about his wife Bimbo) and show relevance I think it does not really meet Wiki guidelines. Darreg (talk) 22:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwo Odukoya meets the notability criteria (WP:BIO) in every way. There are indeed secondary sources in this article about the man himself and not his wife. Taiwo Odukoya heads one of the leading churches in Nigeria (over 8,000 members strong) and makes incredible social contributions such as building orphanages, adopting schools, a hospital for the less privileged, a vocational training school etc. All of these have been duly referenced in this article. @Darreg the notability of Pastor Taiwo Odukoya transcends the notability of his late wife, Bimbo Odukoya, a woman who seized every opportunity to let the world know her husband was the main thrust behind her ministry. The man contributes a weekly column on leadership and nation-building and a fortnightly column on reputable Nigerian platforms, both of which are widely read and respected by Nigerians. It would be a great disservice to Wikipedia to lose this article.Kenneth Azino (talk) 07:51, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I just opened the link that was cited in his philanthropic activities, and the entire article was talking about Philanthropy in Christendom in general and not exclusively about him. His name was mentioned ONCE in the entire article and only 2 lines of text was about him in the entire article. I have nothing against him and if you can give me at least 1 more link to a notable Nigerian Newspaper or website (at least) like this one that talks about him as the major subject I would reconsider my position and add my vote for the article to be kept. Darreg (talk) 22:03, 21 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

If I may also add, if we are to go by your rule about providing social amenities and constructing facilities in communities then about 75% of all Nigerian pastors' will be on wikipedia because they all do that.

What I believe should differentiate them is SIGNIFICANT COVERAGE and that is what I am waiting for you to provide because I can find only one in the entire article. Darreg (talk) 07:16, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:33, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The crux of the issue here is this: Is Taiwo Odukoya worthy of notice? [WP:BIO]. The church wields undeniable influence in Nigeria and few clergy men stand out in this regard for their reputed integrity, popularity and contributions to the community, and Taiwo Odukoya is one of them. The impact of the Single and Married ministry, instituted by Pastor Taiwo Odukoya, and ran by his late wife, Bimbo Odukoya, is unarguably widespread, not mentioning initiatives like Discovery for Men and Women, or weekly articles on leadership and relationship building that are keenly followed on the Guardian, Premium Times, Daily Independent, and BellaNaija, reputable Nigerian Media platforms by any standard. [WP:BASIC] makes it clear that if depth of coverage is not established by one single source then multiple sources can be combined to demonstrate notability and i believe this is what this article has done in several respects. You requested for one more link in the article with Taiwo Odukoya as a major subject, i'll give you four: this [1] speaks directly to his philanthropy as this [2], while this speaks on family [3] just as this [4] @Darreg I totally understand and appreciate your point. But take a second look. Cheers :)Kenneth Azino (talk) 13:57, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep -- I would expect the senior pastor of a church of 8000 people would be notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:08, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep A Google search of Nigerian sources "Taiwo Odukoya" site:.ng brings up enough evidence for me that this is a notable person in Nigeria. -- GreenC 04:45, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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