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The result was merge‎ to Althea Gibson#Legacy. Feel free to merge any relevant content over to the park article as well. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 17:48, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of Althea Gibson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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I can see absolutely no reason whatsoever why this statue should be considerd notable. On first seeing this article I changed it to a redirect to the appropriate section of the subjects biog (which is headed by a picture of this statue). And the actual content of this article is almost zero; certainly nothing which cannot be contained in the biog. And, considered purely as a work of art, I will eat a milliner-load of hats if it excites any real critical attention.TheLongTone (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC) TheLongTone (talk) 15:53, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Merge / Redirect to Branch Brook Park There are sources about the statue in the article and this source popped up in a basic WP:BEFORE search. Is the statue itself and the sourcing about it notable enough to require the nominator to eat a pile of hats? Probably not. But should this be turned into a redirect and should the details of the statue and the Althea Gibson Tennis Center be merged into the article for Branch Brook Park, where the statue resides? Absolutely! The failure to "consider alternatives to deletion" and to conceive of and propose a merge / redirect as an option should be worth eating at least half a hat. Alansohn (talk) 16:10, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Alansohn, when I created the article, I was hoping for more sources on it. Even as I checked now, there aren't that many. Given that, I would say merge with articles Althea Gibson and Branch Brook Park. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:29, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Omnis Scientia, you created the article in good faith, but I concur that a merge to both the articles ("There is a statue of Gibson at Branch Brook Park in Newark, ..." and "At the Althea Gibson Tennis Center, the park has a statue of its namesake Althea Gibson, a pioneering ...") with a redirect to the park are the best solutions given the state of sourcing. Alansohn (talk) 16:37, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Alansohn, thanks!

  I actually created the article because, having been dealing with the categorization of statues of sportspeople, I noticed that none of them were women and sought to rectify that.

  I realize now that the more notable (and better sourced) statue of Gibson is at the U.S. National Tennis Center (the location of the U.S. Open Grand Slam - Althea was the first African American to win it) and I should have focused on that instead of this particular one - partly because there was an image of it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 16:57, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Omnis Scientia: You can categorise the redirect, so that this can still be found that way. PamD 10:25, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@PamD, good idea! Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:33, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Merged (actually redirect) >>>Althea Gibson#Legacy, where image was/is appropriately pictured and text information already included. Djflem (talk) 12:02, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge Statues are commonplace and rarely notable, and when there are sources, coverage in the subject's or location's article is often more appropriate per WP:NOPAGE.
• Keep, this notable (see sources) statue of a major female tennis star is certainly page-worthy. It is exhibited outside of the Althea Gibson Tennis Center, which enhances its importance to her life and its notability. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.