Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sorcerer Supreme (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was redirect to Doctor Strange. Doczilla Ohhhhhh, no! 07:23, 11 January 2025 (UTC)
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Non-notable role that lists every non-notable character to fill said role in the comics, or every time a character briefly took on the mantle. This role isn't individually notable of any of the actual significant characters who held the role as a major part of their characters, such as Strange or the Ancient One. News searches turned up WP:ROUTINE coverage of the role's various changes in the comics, WP:VALNET sources that don't contribute to notability, or summary style articles that only recap plot info. Scholar and Books yield a few hits that look promising at a glance, but the sources that mention the role are predominantly discussing Doctor Strange, with the role only being brought up as a significant part of his character. This role is not independently notable of Strange or any other character, and is better off redirected to Strange's article, given the bulk of coverage predominantly discusses the mantle in the form of Strange's usage of it. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements and Comics and animation. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Doctor Strange. I did some digging per WP:BEFORE, but this is the only good source so far [1]. 🍕BP!🍕 (🔔) 10:45, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect per Boneless Pizza!. There isn't really much distinct WP:SIGCOV to separate this from Doctor Strange. Other characters are mentioned, and this can be done at that article. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Keep or merge with List of Marvel Comics characters: S in the spirit of WP:PRESERVE should no other coverage can be found. We have to put the information of those other Sorcerer Supremes somewhere on this website including the one from Earth-6160. --Rtkat3 (talk) 02:16, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I assume you mean List of Marvel Comics characters: S? Either way, I'd oppose a merge. The Sorcerer Supreme is a role, not a character, and should not be put on a character list. The bulk of the characters on this list link somewhere else already; if they're mentioned anywhere as being Sorcerer Supreme, the explanation that exists at Strange's article should suffice to explain what the role is. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I corrected the link. Help me out here, but are you suggesting that either you want the page to remain or have an honorable mentioning on Doctor Strange's page while having the other known Sorcerer Supremes transferred to the respectful List of Marvel Comics characters pages if the final outcome of this discussion ends with a merging? --Rtkat3 (talk) 14:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I believe a redirect to Strange more than suffices. We don't need to add references to a bulk of the characters on the list, since they either have their own articles already, or are so minor and obscure that they don't need to be mentioned. Strange's article more than suffices if an explanation of the Sorcerer Supreme role is needed. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I corrected the link. Help me out here, but are you suggesting that either you want the page to remain or have an honorable mentioning on Doctor Strange's page while having the other known Sorcerer Supremes transferred to the respectful List of Marvel Comics characters pages if the final outcome of this discussion ends with a merging? --Rtkat3 (talk) 14:03, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I assume you mean List of Marvel Comics characters: S? Either way, I'd oppose a merge. The Sorcerer Supreme is a role, not a character, and should not be put on a character list. The bulk of the characters on this list link somewhere else already; if they're mentioned anywhere as being Sorcerer Supreme, the explanation that exists at Strange's article should suffice to explain what the role is. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 06:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect. WP:FANCRUFT failing WP:GNG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Doctor Strange - He is the character that is most synonymous with the title, and the best sources I am finding that discuss the topic are doing so in the context of it being Strange's role. The actual definition of what the role of "Sorcerer Supreme" means is explained fully in the opening paragraphs of Strange's article already, so no merge is needed. Rorshacma (talk) 17:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.