Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shania (given name)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. -- Scott Burley (talk) 06:41, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
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There is only one notable Shania at this time, so what's the point? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Comment. There is also Shania Junianatha. MarkZusab (talk) 23:03, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 04:02, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- She can replace this article's link in Shania Twain's hatnote. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:27, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV demonstrating this is a common name or that it has actually been popularized by the musician cited in the article. Newshunter12 (talk) 14:59, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. Other notable people named Shania probably exist, even if no Wikipedia editor has written about them yet. This Snapchat-related death might be notable enough (as Death of Shania McNeil to turn into an article, even if yiu don't have much respect for the Daily Mail. Horrifying footage of woman, 21, is taken moments before she died in a head-on collision - as friends post selfies from hospital a day after escaping the wreckage Eastmain (talk • contribs) 02:23, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Speedy delete this not even half-assed atrocity. Frankly this is an insult to people who study names. Trillfendi (talk) 04:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
*Delete We can't keep an article because of what might happen in the future (no crystal ball). If however a few more famous Shanias pop up, then there should be enough to recreate this article. But as of now, delete. THEFlint Shrubwood (talk) 04:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep Due to the new revelations mentioned below. I guess 'the future' is now. THEFlint Shrubwood (talk) 04:57, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
::I also concur with Clarityfriend's hat note suggestion. THEFlint Shrubwood (talk) 04:51, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep after addition of worthwhile content and citations today – subsequent to all the above comments. – Fayenatic London 20:43, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep. I expanded and referenced the article yesterday. I further added {{ill}}s to three women named Shania with articles on non-English Wikipedias in Special:Diff/895642733/895650931, all three lifted directly off Wikidata:We have a fine opportunity here to expand the English-language coverge of these women.
- Shania Collins, American sprinter and gold-medal winner at the 2019 USA Indoor Track and Field Championships
- Shania Gracia , Indonesian singer and a member of the Indonesian idol group JKT48
- Shania Junianatha , Indonesian singer and former member of JKT48
Apart from being a valid set index, the article is a quite normal {{given name}} article: We have sources that speak in detail about the name, and as such the article meets WP:GNG.
Also worth mentioning is the uncertainty about the origin and meaning of the name that I have demonstrated by citing multiple sources. Here we have as an encyclopedia an opportunity to clarify that these uncertainties exist.
The nomination asks a question rather than advancing an argument for deletion. As such this discussion would have been eligible for closure under WP:SK1, had it not been for the subsequent "delete" !votes that are far from flawless:"... demonstrating this is a common name"
is not a criterion rooted in any P&Gs, nor is"has actually been popularized by the musician"
. The "speedy delete" !vote is invalid: no CSD apply here, and neither of the two arguments in the !vote are policy-based. The last "delete" !vote argues that"If however a few more famous Shanias pop up, then ..."
. "Famous" is an arbitrary criterion, all we ask for is notable, and that goes for the name itself as well. (Keep) Sam Sailor 04:19, 6 May 2019 (UTC) (Amended for testing purposes (AfD Stats). --Sam Sailor 18:06, 8 May 2019 (UTC)) - Comment I still don’t see how these are reliable sources about names. BellyBallot? Really? The others simply focus on Shania Twain... which isn’t even her real name. Simply a confused mess. Trillfendi (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks to Lugnuts we now have a local article about Shania Collins. Sam Sailor 11:23, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.