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The result was delete. JForget 14:06, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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I contested speedy because I can't say that it's a blatant hoax. However, I was unable to find any sources regarding this person on Gnews, Gbooks, or Gscholar. Tim Song (talk) 18:50, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Addendum: and most related Ghits I found are WP mirrors. I say "most" because I didn't check all of the Ghits. Tim Song (talk) 01:23, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

..Not too surprising, considering the fact that it is a complete hoax. Aviados (talk) 20:41, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The name is not a russian-jewish (or russian or ukrainian at all) name but more of a modern Israeli name (some people were called Shay - but not russians). He was supposedly killed in a terror attack while touring to the Golan Heights in 1949 - that is, when it was under Syria control, just 2 months after the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. Were there buses going from Israel to the Golan at that time? A reference is quoting Yedioth Ahronoth is dated to 1935 while the paper started out only in 1939. The reference about his death is quoting Jerusalem Post on September 5th, while the date of his death according to the article is November 20th, unless the Jerusalem Post started dating by OS in 1949. Also - conflicting messages about immigrating to Israel - was it an Aliyah or an exile? How did the NKVD operated in British Mandate era Palestine? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.103.177 (talk) 20:42, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy delete: WP:SNOW. An apparent hoax. Aviados (talk) 11:50, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I agree it is a hoax, but it is not obviously enough so for speedy. If the evidence needs to be laid out here, it does not fit A3. Conflicting information in an article is not definitive indication of a hoax--there are often errors in bios from various sources. I would never say something is non-existent because of not being in the Googles. I added a search in WorldCat, and found nothing, but if the work was published in Ukrainian, that would not be definitive either. However, I did check the work in which he is reported to have an essay, [1], and he does not. . The speedy was contested, and therefore the speedy tag can not be reinserted--I removed the one Aviados just added. Snow is possible if others agree. DGG ( talk ) 21:56, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 23:42, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per opine of DGG. ArcAngel (talk) 06:08, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete not only is there no info available about Shai Bernstein born 1895, the photo of him in this article appears badly photoshopped; the face is much paler than the neck and surrounding head. It really does look like a hoax article. When I looked at the original article it mentioned a Sarah Hartzell alleged to be Shai's wife. Googling Shai Bernstein + Sarah Hartzell led me to the Houston Chronicle School Zone Blog which lists these two names as receiving awards or accolades:

School Zone: Awards & Accolades Archives ... Keila E. Fong, Sarah C. Hartzell, Michael H. Miller, Blake A. Niccum, Donald W. Ross, .... Lindsey E. Smith, Shawn P. Reddy and Shai Bernstein. ... blogs.chron.com/schoolzone/awards_accolades/ - Cached - Similar

Looks like it was kids having fun who wrote this article. S. M. Sullivan (talk) 02:34, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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