Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert E. Ireland
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The result was keep. WP:SNOW. The Bushranger One ping only 20:57, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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Robert E. Ireland has a messy and (and coincidentally, also without many sources) Wikipedia article. There aren't really enough sources to establish anything beyond the fact that this guy existed, which unfortunately isn't enough for WP:GNG, plus it doesn't have significant coverage. Pitille02 (talk) 03:51, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Perhaps the nominator could explain how they failed to consider WP:PROF and the obvious claim of notability through WP:PROF#C5 in the article ("Thomas Jefferson Chair Professor of chemistry at the University of Virginia"). The Ernest Guenther Award may also pass #C2, and his citation counts look high enough for #C1. Note that WP:PROF notability is independent from WP:GNG and does not rely on the existence of in-depth independent sourcing, but we have that also in three published obituaries (not counting the alumni magazine one), all of which have a half-dozen or so in-depth paragraphs about the subject and are independent from each other and Ireland and reliably published. To add to that we have one in-depth review of a book by him [1], not enough by itself for WP:AUTHOR but adding to the depth of sourcing in general, and entire papers about the Ireland–Claisen rearrangement named after him [2]. So I think we may have a pass of WP:GNG as well. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:22, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. A clear pass of WP:Prof#C1 on GS cites and a above. A trout for the nominator, who has been editing for one month. Xxanthippe (talk) 08:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC).
- Keep. I'm biased as the original author, but I have a good record of selecting high quality professors who meet WP:PROF (humble brag, picked out a couple of Nobel Prize winners). Anyways, he is a University Professor of UVA and the general trend is to have Wikipedia articles for most professors who meet that criteria. Sources come from obituaries from ACS and tributes from fairly high profile chemists. Article can and should be improved but individual is certainly notable. Chrisvanlang (talk) 01:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- It may be helpful if you take a look at WP:Prof. Xxanthippe (talk) 03:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC).
- Keep. A clear pass of WP:PROF on named chair, concept named for them, and citation profile per GS. As David Eppstein writes, GNG appears to be satisfied too. Suggest withdrawal. Espresso Addict (talk) 04:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Snow Keep, per clear evidence of passing multiple WP:NACADEMIC criteria and WP:GNG. Dclemens1971 (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep. It is understandable for novices to not know the difference between WP:GNG and WP:NPROF; sometimes even somewhat experienced editors don't. Very obvious pass. I will add that there are multiple obituaries on him, and a little from one or more of those would be good to add so a non-technical person understands better. Also, more info is better. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
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