Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ricky Meinhold
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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 07:42, 16 February 2021 (UTC)
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Routine coverage, and assistant coaches aren't automatically notable. Fails WP:NBASEBALL. Deprodded because he's on the Mets staff, but again, that doesn't meet NBASEBALL. Onel5969 TT me 17:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Onel5969 TT me 17:48, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. North America1000 18:04, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep WP:NBASE #4:
Have served as a commissioner, president, general manager, owner, coach, or manager in one of the above-mentioned leagues.
If he's a coach for the Mets, he meets NBASE. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:24, 8 February 2021 (UTC)- Muboshgu, you're correct. However, he's not a coach on the Mets. He's an assistant coach. Therefore he doesn't qualify under that SN. Onel5969 TT me 21:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Assistant coaches are a newer thing in MLB, but they are still coaches on the team's coaching staff. They count. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Muboshgu, they've been around for at least 5 years, so yes, comparatively speaking, they are new, and newer than when the SN was written. Assistant coaches are usually not included (e.g. WP:NGRIDIRON, WP:NBASKETBALL). Onel5969 TT me 21:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Onel5969, the only difference between baseball and those sports you included in your argument is that in baseball the position is far more higher-ranking. If let's say a pitching coach was fired from a team, then it's quite possible the assistant would be hired as the replacement. Therefore a team could hire a new coach on the spot without having to go directly to the minor league system. This is also true for the assistant hitting coaches. It helps teams save time by not making dozens of replacements within the farm system for the same pitching coach job. And since they are now considered coaches on the big league staff, even as assistant coaches, the notability is sound. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
- Muboshgu, they've been around for at least 5 years, so yes, comparatively speaking, they are new, and newer than when the SN was written. Assistant coaches are usually not included (e.g. WP:NGRIDIRON, WP:NBASKETBALL). Onel5969 TT me 21:59, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Assistant coaches are a newer thing in MLB, but they are still coaches on the team's coaching staff. They count. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Muboshgu, you're correct. However, he's not a coach on the Mets. He's an assistant coach. Therefore he doesn't qualify under that SN. Onel5969 TT me 21:12, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: He's on the staff of the Mets. Listed on the team's website. That's notable enough. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:09, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
- Keep: The article has reliable independent sources covering Meinhold in reasonable depth (e.g. [1] and [2]). The coverage cannot be dismissed simply as "routine". Wikipedia:Notability (events)#Routine coverage does not apply anyway as Meinhold is not an event or a person known only for a particular event. Adumbrativus (talk) 03:21, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
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