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The result was delete. Fenix down (talk) 13:12, 6 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rasheed Omokafe Adeyanju

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Footballer who fails GNG and NFOOTY. Previously deleted in scope of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keo Soksela. Speedy-del tag removed by page creator who claims that this is an unrelated person of the same name, which I highly doubt (can't see the old version as I'm not an admin, but they all related to Cambodian football, so most likely the same person). --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:22, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Keo Soksela" is literally a completely , totally different name and title all-together? Furthermore , the page meets all criteria for a stub without any violations, whatsoever. I was not even aware that there a page previously apparently created as one can't even access / view it? This page should not be deleted because the page appears to not be a repost of material that was previously deleted. The page has substantially original content , non-identical to that of the previous page deleted after a discussion, and any changes in the content do not correlate with that of the material which was previously deleted. The information provided meets all relative criteria and credible claims , as well as sources / references. It is suitable to be edited ,expanded on and turned into a bigger and more comprehensive article in the future Glow--stick7 (talk) 12:27, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Upon , doing a mere Google search , you can literally come to realize that the information is credible and the stub has room for edits, improvement , and expansion , opposed to "Keo Soksela" which happened to have been deleted for information not being factual/credible am I correct? also what is the correlation? A deletion seems a little far-fetched and unnecessary. Glow--stick7 (talk) 12:34, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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The footballer does not fail GNG and NFOOTY , which can be confirmed upon a simple 'Google' and clubs' history search. The stub just needs to be edited/ expanded which it surely , will be.Glow--stick7 (talk) 12:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 13:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
They are listed in the 'not fully professional' section. If you believe this to be wrong, please start a discussion at WT:FPL Spiderone 14:00, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Where is the correlation and validity of that? Anyway, I could swear , both were listed in the 'fully professional' section not so long ago...however must be my mistake , thanks for pointing that out. At the time of writing this, the player, played for and was also featured in another fully professional league , listed in the 'fully professional leagues', section - which is listed at WP:FPL , the Egyptian Premier League for Aswan SC(2017) Glow--stick7 (talk) 14:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Are there any reliable sources verifying that he played a game for Aswan? I couldn't find any match reports or any database profile showing that he appeared in a league fixture for them Spiderone 14:55, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
He most likely didn't play for Aswan as the deal was cancelled per [1]. Same source also mentions Aswan as a Second Division club, and indeed they have relegated in 2017. --BlameRuiner (talk) 15:05, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As per the main and previous statement regarding , leagues not listed at WP:FPL , after I confirmed that as incorrect, and the played has featured in leagues listed at WP:FPL - you then diverted to sections , avert from your first reasoning for deletion. Regarding Aswan , then it appears that , that could've been mentioned in a seperate 'talk' and/ or edited as the page is a stub, Still not grounds for deletion as per everything afore , mentioned. Glow--stick7 (talk) 15:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst he clearly was on Aswan's books very briefly, is there any proof that he played a game? NFOOTBALL requires participation in at least one match and since GNG is failed, this article is relying on NFOOTBALL to pass Spiderone 15:17, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The article passes basic stub , GNG and basic stub NFOOTY criteria. As per second , numbered paragraph for association football at NFOOTBALL , "Players who have played, and managers who have managed, in a competitive game between two teams from fully professional leagues will generally be regarded as notable." although the stub doesn't have that tag and is merely NFOOTY compliant , the player has featured and played for Cyprus club , Magusa Turk Gucu S.K. which is listed at [[WP:FPL] , there are also a few pictures on 'Google' images.

I found the following links ; https://www.facebook.com/mturkgucu/posts/2085793985043613 https://www.yeniduzen.com/omokafeye-olumlu-rapor-97685h.htm http://www.ktff.org/InfoBank/PlayerDetails/17718 http://kengadaffi.blogspot.com/2018/01/cyprus-club-snaps-up-nigeria-born.html Glow--stick7 (talk) 16:14, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Facebook and Blogspot sources don't qualify as reliable sources. The other two don't do much to establish notability. Please also note that the Cypriot league is fully professional but Magusa Turk Gucu S.K. do not play in the Cypriot league, they play in the Turkish Cypriot league which is clearly listed as not fully pro. Spiderone 17:42, 30 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't vote twice. If this stub can be expanded then please show me three good reliable, independent sources that could be used. Spiderone 09:31, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The voTES don't count nor are seen as actual votes , so the relevance isn't as detrimental. Leagues that are a country's highest level are generally notable, for NFOOTY. Furthermore, the article meets GNG criteria for a stub regarding a WP:BLP and association football stub and has room to be edited and expanded on, in the future. P.S. The sources already referenced meet the criteria for the stub and all the topics/ tags it pertains, towards. Glow--stick7 (talk) 11:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Do not spread misleading information. There are more top-level leagues that are not fully-pro and fail NFOOTY than the other way around. --BlameRuiner (talk) 12:16, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Spread"? Leagues that are a country's highest level are generally notable, for NFOOTBALL . The article meets GNG criteria for a stub regarding a WP:BLP and association football stub. Glow--stick7 (talk) 12:25, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
He does not pass GNG as you have not provided sources that show significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject and he does not pass NFOOTBALL as you have not provided any evidence that he has played in a game between two teams playing in fully professional leagues. If you believe that the Cambodian and Turkish Cypriot leagues should be considered as fully professional, then please start a discussion at WT:FPL. Spiderone 15:01, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The WP:FPL hasn't been updated yet but I presume those leagues will be regarded as fully pro in the near future, especially Cambodia. Thanks for your suggestion Spiderone .The stub does pass GNG , particularly, regarding reliable sources , independent of the subject , https://www.khmertimeskh.com/36936/omokafe-at-the-double-to-down-crown/ | https://nationaldailyng.com/rasheed-omokafe-bags-international-striker-of-2018-cool-wealth-award/ | https://www.instagram.com/coolwealth_awards/?hl=en | https://pageone.ng/2020/08/03/cambodia-home-play-epl-serie-a-rasheed-omokafe/ | https://24bcd.com/newsdetail/O-Rasheed-Returns-to-Cambodia-with-a-promise-to-take-the-Metfone-Cambodia-League-by-Storm | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5BHPXqJ6VE | https://www.sporyeni.com/omokafe-resmi-imzayi-atti-4592h.htm | https://mediamastersng.com/2020/02/24/rasheed-omokafe-scores-in-army-debut/ Glow--stick7 (talk) 15:46, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The best sources look to be [2] [3]. I'm not sure that the rest count towards GNG as the sources are either unreliable like this one and the YouTube video or they are painfully brief. Spiderone 16:20, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Khmer Times , is reliable and therefore counts as a reliable source towards GNG , too. Glow--stick7 (talk) 16:26, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The mention was very brief and doesn't give us any strong coverage of the player that we could build a biography from. Spiderone 16:28, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The player is still young and seems to be an active player albeit coverage is not sufficient enough. Surely the stub will be expanded on the in the ,future. Nonetheless, the sources indicate that the stub is of valid and appropriate, nature in accordance with basic GNG stub, criteria. Glow--stick7 (talk) 16:34, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. ( https://mediamastersng.com/2020/02/24/rasheed-omokafe-scores-in-army-debut ) is an adequate ,reliable source and includes coverage too, even if perceived as nominal , still sufficient for expansion material and/ or source referencing etc. Glow--stick7 (talk) 17:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiderone:, @BlameRuiner:, @GiantSnowman: Happy New Year what's your consensus , at present? Glow--stick7 (talk) 04:52, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion remains he is non-notable. GiantSnowman 09:59, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In accordance to actual, par via GNG WP:BLP stub ,criteria? Glow--stick7 (talk) 10:07, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Spiderone: https://mihaaru.com/local_sports/28524 | (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Maldivian_Third_Division_Football_Tournament) 2017 Maldivian Third Division Football Tournament (Best Player - Award) Glow--stick7 (talk) 10:12, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My opinion is that he fails WP:GNG on the evidence available Spiderone 10:18, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You @Spiderone: , requested for three good sources , I provided sources which display strong coverage that could be used to as the foundation for a biography or expansion, exactly like many other WP:BLP , WP:stub / WP:Football-stub 's. , you , yourself confirmed that two "looked to be good" , and just now again , added 2 more. The player is young and active. What else is your argument at this, point and why? Glow--stick7 (talk) 10:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that they show good coverage. I pointed out two sources that were the better ones but they were still brief. Being the best player in the Maldivian Third Division is a very weak claim to notability. Winning the '2018 Cool Wealth Award' is also not a strong claim. Please be wary of the essay WP:BLUDGEON; continually repeating the same points over and over in the hope that other people will eventually just give up and agree with you is not always the best way to approach the subject. The lady doth protest too much as William Shakespeare once wrote. Spiderone 10:45, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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