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The result was delete and redirect‎ to Fake news in India#Fake news against Pakistan. RL0919 (talk) 18:46, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pakistan grave necrophilia hoax (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Not every hoax requires its own standalone WP page. To qualify, it must meet the NEVENT, which states that the events including hoaxes should have WP:PERSISTENCE / significant coverage and demonstrate lasting significance or impact, which is not the case here. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and Redirect to List of hoaxes.--Ameen Akbar (talk) 08:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The hoax pretty much spread like wildfire, and has PERSISTENTLY BEEN reported in many articles, including reputable ones like Dawn.

Here are some sources that falsely report this rumour:

Firstpost (which you argued for its reliability once) - https://www.firstpost.com/world/parents-are-locking-their-daughters-graves-in-pakistan-but-why-12516002.html/amp

Associated News International - https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/pakistani-parents-lock-daughters-graves-to-avoid-rape20230429124712

Times of India - https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/spotlight/web-stories/why-are-people-locking-up-womens-graves-in-pakistan/photostory/99838682.cms

News sources that report the case being debunked and false:

The Express Tribune - https://tribune.com.pk/story/2414436/indian-media-spreads-fake-padlocked-grave-image-to-discredit-pakistan?amp=1

Dawn- https://www.dawn.com/news/amp/1750493

NDTV- https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/story-on-pictures-of-padlock-in-pakistan-incorrect-grave-from-hyderabad-3990281/amp/1

WION- https://www.wionews.com/south-asia/why-are-parents-locking-their-daughters-graves-in-pakistan-587324/amp

ALT News- https://www.altnews.in/media-misreport-viral-photo-of-grave-with-iron-grille-is-from-hyderabad-not-pakistan/

India TV News- https://www.indiatvnews.com/amp/news/india/the-truth-behind-graveyard-with-padlock-story-pakistan-hyderabad-video-photos-waris-pathan-latest-updates-2023-05-01-868273 VirtualVagabond (talk) 08:20, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

VirtualVagabond, OK but you're still missing the point. As mentioned earlier, this coverage does not meet WP:CONTINUEDCOVERAGE. Also Wikipedia:Existence ≠ Notability and WP:WIDESPREAD states Don't create an article on a news story covered in 109 newspapers. — Saqib (talk I contribs) 08:26, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This page has been picked up by reputable sources, so I’d say it pretty much is notable. Not to mention that this topic is brought up quite a bit, even warranting an article that was made about it only a few weeks ago:

https://www.boomlive.in/amp/fast-check/viral-picture-grave-locked-pakistan-parents-necrophilia-daughter-claim-online-25859 VirtualVagabond (talk) 08:34, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not an article, it's a fact check, largely repeating what everyone else has posted a year ago. It's barely half a page, with more photo than text. Oaktree b (talk) 17:02, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• DeleteRedirect to Fake news in India#Fake news against Pakistan (18:08, 17 August 2024 (UTC)): per nom. This event fails WP:PERSISTENCE and WP:NSUSTAINED. Random fact-check websites are not significant coverage of this event, and most of the sources here are either unreliable or questionable per CiteHighlighter. Do not merge to List of hoaxes because the scope of that list is notable entries (i.e., each entry links to a notable event). voorts (talk/contributions) 01:09, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with List of hoaxes and Fake news in India. Muneebll (talk) 18:59, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  List of hoaxes appears to require a blue link for each entry, so that wouldn't work. There's already a due summary of the hoax in Fake news in India#Fake news against Pakistan. voorts (talk/contributions) 18:07, 17 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:03, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: I can only find coverage from May and August a year ago, then nothing since. It has no persistence in media, so doesn't really meet notability as explained. Could be a brief mention in an article about news hoaxes or something, but not notable enough for its own article. [1] pretty well explains it, and that was over a year ago. Oaktree b (talk) 17:01, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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