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Non-notable album. References are junk. Fails WP:SIGCOV. Repeatedly rejected at WP:AFC. scope_creep^Talk 00:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Sweden. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:11, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

these references contain proof NovaExplorer37 (talk) 00:18, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete BPM are not valid references, and do nothing to establish notability. And there is also now Draft:Natrag Na Voz, which has been declined twice. And User:NovaExplorer37 put a false Featured article on the article, which I deleted. David notMD (talk) 01:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  well i could only use article wizard now all of a sudden i can create wiki articles?????? NovaExplorer37 (talk) 01:56, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, and User:NovaExplorer37 please read the policy on notability before writing another article. --Richard Yin (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  but these are the only sources!!!! NovaExplorer37 (talk) 04:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @NovaExplorer37: That is the point. If enough solid, reliable sources can't be found then the subject does not reach the standard of notability.--Gronk Oz (talk) 05:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  any way i can make the article better? NovaExplorer37 (talk) 06:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  if u google "Notable Albums by Zana" Natrag Na Voz is mentioned. NovaExplorer37 (talk) 06:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  so i added another source this time it mentions the album! and another one which mentions it about anniversary and a little type of biography that ok now or should i add more? NovaExplorer37 (talk) 06:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  forgot what sources i put on: One from a book and one which features Zana’s anniversary which also mentions the album (and on a book too)! NovaExplorer37 (talk) 06:25, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @NovaExplorer37 please read WP:Notability, especially the general notability guideline section of the policy. If there are no reliable secondary sources which provide significant coverage, i.e. cover the subject in detail, the subject shouldn't have an article and nothing you do will magically make the subject deserve an article. Mentions in books or Google searches aren't enough, the source needs to actually spend significant page space talking about the subject in detail. Did a major newspaper publish an article reviewing the album, for example, or talking about the production process? Or did an author of a book devote an entire chapter to talking about it? --Richard Yin (talk) 07:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Well in ex-Yugoslavs Books some did but rarely got published i See but this article is still a deserve to stay in wiki i declare. NovaExplorer2 (talk) 08:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Refs are being added during this AfD period, but the refs do not appear to meet WP:42 standards. David notMD (talk) 14:12, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  see now there two references that are alteast mentioned about the album

  Best Regards- Noor NovaExplorer37 (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Both those references are non-RS. That means they are unreliable. IMDB is unreliable per WP:IMDB. The other one is a directory listing and is junk. Similar to discogs. You should not be writing articles. There is clearly a WP:CIR issue here. When this is all finished, I will be taking you to have a chat with an administrator. scope_creep^Talk 22:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

added a reliable source that’s from a book. 77.119.210.127 (talk) 17:48, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its a passing mention, a single sentence not about the album. scope_creep^Talk 19:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

still i see it counts NovaExplorer37 (talk) 22:19, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@NovaExplorer37 I asked you 4 days ago to read the general notability guideline, but it doesn't seem like you've understood it. Mentions are not enough. If there is no reliable source that provides significant coverage, then the article should be deleted. Filling the article with references to short mentions isn't going to prove that it belongs on Wikipedia. --Richard Yin (talk) 22:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Richard Yin thought everybody is right with "Wikipedia is a site where you can create everything" doesnt seem like it ig? as you said that i need to read the "general notability guideline" to declare this i did read it (a bit) well what can i say i tried my best finding everything about the album Biographies, News Articles etc etc! those references aren’t reliable you say but some others use them for articles too ak. Discogs, Imdb, FM etc. there are also 2 wikipedia pages about this album, (and they have mostly the same exact information) and i mean every wikipedia is the same. NovaExplorer37 (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was never that and its not case you can create anything you want. Wikipedia is not blog or a website. Every article must be verifiable per WP:V. Both of these wikipedia articles will be deleted and its non-notable. Lastly its not pages, its articles. scope_creep^Talk 07:49, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@NovaExplorer37: Wikipedia is described as "the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit", not "a site where you can create everything". This does not mean it is a free-for-all; those edits are still required to meet Wikipedia's standards.--Gronk Oz (talk) 08:46, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: per nom. KOLANO12 3 16:18, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]