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The result was no consensus. RL0919 (talk) 02:11, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nadir Ali (comedian) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Fails WP:NSINGER. Google News gives no substantial coverage. YaarYaar (talk) 10:43, 6 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete a BBC story about a man with the same name who stabbed his family, then this [1] is all I find. Oaktree b (talk) 00:58, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and Pakistan. Shellwood (talk) 01:14, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Leaning towards Keep with hesitance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alpah555 (talk • contribs) 01:56, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per sources found and analyzed by User:Chagropango in the previous AfD. The subject has plenty of coverage in Urdu media as well:

1. Daily Jang
2. Daily Ausaf
3. Voice of America (Urdu)
4. ARY News

With that much coverage in reliable English and Urdu Sources, the subject passes WP:GNG. Insight 3 (talk) 15:08, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. The nominator has been blocked, but I'm uncertain if this is notable. Looking at the previous AfD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nadir Ali, the refs provided are better, but two surround a similar story on tax issues. However, I'm afraid I can't see other SIGCOV-meeting references that cover Nadir more generally instead of on the tax incident. The refs User:Insight 3 provided doesn't look like SIGCOV to me. This is a short piece on an investigation and earnings, this is clearly a promo puff piece, Nader Ali is considered as one of the best and famous YouTubers of Pakistan, Even after reaching the heights of fame, he still meets common people as if he is not a popular star, this is another piece that is an announcement column, which is short and a bit promotional, He said that no beautiful comedian has ever become a hit in the history of Pakistan, ninety percent of my fans are boys, so it is a big deal for a person like me to become a fan of a girl, I eat with passion and there is also a barbeque program with my friends. How are those SIGCOV? VickKiang (talk) 22:04, 18 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Comment - @User:VickKiang The tax issue coverage implies notability, otherwise, there are hundreds of people in Pakistan with such issues without being in news. I have pointed out only some reliable Urdu newspapers above and of course not all of them are of the same quality. The ARY source is basically an interview where the subject describes himself the way he likes, but the non-interview part says: He is one of the notable YouTubers of Pakistan, he has also traveled to many countries to make pranks and has made Pakistan famous around the world. YouTuber Nadir Ali participated in a TV channel for the first time with his wife Faiza Nader after marriage, both husband and wife became special guests of ARY News program ....Also, the subject has been interviewed by the Voice of America (Urdu). Its an audio in Urdu with the description: What is the secret to being successful on YouTube? How much income can be made from online videos? Are Prank Videos Really True? Find out the answers to all these questions in the conversation of famous Pakistani YouTuber Nader Ali with Voice of America's Aftab Borka. Again this speaks for subject's notability when it is outside the national media. Therefore, I think the sources overall indicate notability in favor of the subject. Insight 3 (talk) 14:22, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  The second ref is an interview that states in the non-interview part that the subject is successful and famous, with the description being relatively short and popularity isn't really synonymous with notability. This source is another interview, indicating Nadir's popularity (Nader Ali's videos get millions of views and likes, which is why Nader Ali's YouTube channel Pay for Cooking is considered one of the largest YouTube channels in Pakistan) but overall the non-interview part IMHO is too short to be WP:SIGCOV. This source, while overall probably non-SIGCOV, does assert that (in the brief non-interview) part Nadir is notable, so it might indicate that there could be better in-depth WP:SIGCOV-meeting coverage, though I don't think it's enough on its own. VickKiang (talk) 20:29, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Found one more source to consider: ARY News. Insight 3 (talk) 15:54, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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