Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michele Knotz (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 23:30, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
AfDs for this article:
- Michele Knotz (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
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Bringing this (procedurally) back to AFD because I restored this biography of a living person as a contested proposed deletion after a a refund request and the previous AfD was cut short by a speedy deletion referring to a different one-sentence version, but she still doesn't seem to meet WP:GNG and WP:ENTERTAINER. Tikiwont (talk) 22:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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Neutral for nowWeak keep - My heart is torn for !voting keep per passing WP:ENTERTAINER (she voices Jessie, Misty and May in Pokémon) and !voting delete (for a lack of coverage in reliable sources). I've found a few (possibly unreliable) interviews such as this, but little definite reliable coverage, which honestly isn't surprising given that there is actually little coverage for American anime voice actors in general, with a few notable exceptions. This is probably going to be a rare case where systemic bias applies to American actors, since we do have articles on Japanese voice actors who have little coverage in their native Japan because they do have major roles. Since I have been a Pokémon fan since childhood (I even liked the 4Kids dub despite being rather awful by today's standards; jelly-filled donuts, anyone?), it's too difficult to !vote in an AfD on someone who worked on the series,so might as well abstain for now, unless someone else finds (or fails to find) reliable sources.but since she has done major roles, then I'll give the benefit of a doubt and say that she's notable. There are still several fans of the Pokémon anime in the US, so there's probably reliable coverage out there.Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 03:16, 26 January 2013 (UTC)Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:32, 2 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: It's slow finding sources since the English markets tend to not interview or fawn over the VA the same way they would an actor or the way they do in Japan. I'm leaning towards a weak keep since she did perform some notable roles and is still performing as the voice actor for big roles such as Jessie. I did find a nice interview on AnimeCons, which was conducted with one of the Executive Producers of the site. AnimeCons might be somewhat more known for giving routine listings of events at times, but it is what I'd consider a reliable source in this instance.Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:26, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. This is one of those instances where there might not be a lot of sources such as interviews and direct coverage, but there are enough sources that confirm that she has voiced several notable roles within the anime world. She's big enough to warrant her being the main guest at some anime conventions. This is almost a weak keep, but what turns this into a stronger keep for me is that the roles she's voiced are big ones in the anime world. I'd say that she passes part one of WP:ENTERTAINER and would be one of those rare instances where someone has performed notable roles without getting a ton of coverage about it in the mainstream press.Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:38, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep – She's been in plenty of roles, and the sources for that are out there. I see no reason to delete; this article is far better than your average one-sentence voice actress stub. Bensci54 (talk) 11:24, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran (t • c) 11:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep WP:ENTERTAINER number 1 is clearly met, as others have already said. Dream Focus 23:39, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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