Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marilyn Jess
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Listed for 3 weeks with no arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Marilyn Jess (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)
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No evidence of passing WP:PORNBIO. EuroPride (talk) 20:01, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose - Quite famous in France. Mentioned in mainstream magazines such as Les Inrockuptibles or cinema magazines such as La Revue du cinéma . Of course she is from France and from the 80s, in an encyclopedia which is USporn-centric and does not care too much about porn in the pre-Internet era. Hektor (talk) 20:25, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletion discussions. -- --Darkwind (talk) 21:46, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been added to the WikiProject Pornography list of deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 22:57, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Keep I am willing to accept that notability in France, and being written of in mainstream sources as shared by Hektor should be good enough for en.Wikipedia. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:11, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:04, 2 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - if Hektor can provide more specific cites (if she's been mentioned in these magazines, can we have at least an issue/year/page, even if there's no online version available).--137.122.49.102 (talk) 21:22, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep per Hektor. Dismas|(talk) 15:23, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. Another view or 2 would be helpful before this is closed. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep notable for France is notable enough for Wikipedia. Just becuase someone is only notable in one country doesn't mean there shouldn't be an article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 01:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Nobody said that being notable in France wasn't good enough for the English Wikipedia. The AFD was created due to concerns that the subject didn't meet notability guidelines not because she is French. Anyway these magazine appearances still have not been provided - No issue number/year etc; So there is still no real evidence of notability. EuroPride (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Les Inrocks Un film porno est toujours aimé en secret. Et Marilyn Jess, la hardeuse eighties ultime. Là, elle paraît avoir 19 ans pour emmener Gérard Kikoïne dans une spirale sadienne.
- La revue du cinema, n" 450, juin 1989
- Sorry I didn't come back to this discussion after having provided my opinion, therefore not answering. For me this is the history of classic French porn : Claudine Beccarie and Sylvia Bourdon in the early seventies, then Brigitte Lahaie end of seventies beginning of eighties, then Marilyn Jess in the mid eighties. Then this is the video/modern era, with the likes of Tabatha Cash and Clara Morgane. I have a question to the nominator : you are an editor of many religion related article, or of Anti-pornography movement, and until recently you had a large Christian cross on your talk page. You have nominated for deletion many porn related articles. Do you have an anti-pornography agenda ? Hektor (talk) 07:08, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Nobody said that being notable in France wasn't good enough for the English Wikipedia. The AFD was created due to concerns that the subject didn't meet notability guidelines not because she is French. Anyway these magazine appearances still have not been provided - No issue number/year etc; So there is still no real evidence of notability. EuroPride (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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