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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 13:53, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lincoln Birch (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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BLP subject has stated they would rather the page not exist 1. Low profile individual of questionable notability who is unlikely to gain more notability CiphriusKane (talk) 09:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Golf, Germany, and England. CiphriusKane (talk) 09:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Marginal IMO and would be happy to see it kept if others feel that way. Passes WP:NGOLF since he played a single season on the European Tour (2003, best 11th in the Qatar Masters). Didn't win anything significant as either an amateur or a pro. Finished 11th in the 2002 Challenge Tour order of merit which gave him the place on the 2003 European Tour. Twice runner-up on the 2002 Challenge Tour. Article here gives some biographical details. Nigej (talk) 10:57, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. There is one half-decent source and a small biography in the European Tour profile, and he seems to have had a promising career at one point, so it's quite possible other sources the would contribute to establishing notability exist. _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 11:45, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Completely separate to the lack of clue leading to them flirting with a Streisand effect, I'm not seeing anything under either of the identities used to support the article (strings: "lincoln birch", "gary birch jr"). In fact, most of the hits I'm getting are completely irrelevant to the golfer, and what ones are relevant are merely statlines (too sparse). Without commenting on the book (can't assess - copy required) the only usable source cited is The National News (which uses "Gary Birch Jr."). The two European Tour sources (using "Lincoln Birch") are one and the same, and the biography on them has no obvious author credit I can see. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{Source assessment notes} 15:28, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  If there are sources to be found, the name used would almost certainly be Gary (Jr, Jnr, or Junior). _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 17:16, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I tend to agree with Nigej and don't see many of his accomplishments being noteworthy. Plenty of players who have achieved more than him do not have articles. But if consensus where to keep the page, then I am happy to go with that. Jimmymci234 (talk) 16:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and "salt" to prevent re-creation Checking Newspapers.com, I've seen British golfer "Gary Birch" listed at the British Open in the early 2000s, way down the leaderboard. Basically a nobody. And the now-blocked user (allegedly the golfer) is being mysterious about a name change. (Gary to Lincoln?) Just a trouble magnet. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 19:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  The user seems to be something of a Prince Harry character. Doesn't want an article about himself but uploaded a photo of himself a few years ago. Seems that he only wants an article on his own terms. However, that shouldn't affect our decision here. Nigej (talk) 19:47, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per above. The person who loves reading (talk) 17:35, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.