Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/January 2011 lahore bombing
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:NOTNEWS. Yes it has coverage in the news. However short-term coverage does not prove or imply long-term notability.
WP:EVENT states that "An event that is a precedent or catalyst for something else of lasting significance is likely to be notable." This is unfortunately the umpteenth bombing in Pakistan in the last couple of years and this particular bombing has nothing that makes it more notable than the many others.
To further quote from WP:EVENT "Notable events usually receive coverage beyond a relatively short news cycle." This particular bombing is very unlikely to receive any attention once something new comes along.
Simply put: While the attack should be noted on a list of events of the year or a list of all terrorist attacks of the year, it is simply not notable enough on its own. Travelbird (talk) 20:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of News-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment "this particular bombing has nothing that makes it more notable than the many others" - yes it does; it happened in Lahore. Mar4d (talk) 09:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:06, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Weak keep - Definitly needs a complete rewrite and expansion. But notable event.--BabbaQ (talk) 14:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment How ? Why ? Travelbird (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment At the moment we have two keep votes with the reasoning "it happened in Lahore" and "notable event". We really need a bit more for this to pass an actual notability test! Travelbird (talk) 21:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as WP:NOTNEWS. However, this information does need to be preserved somewhere in which the context can be seen, and the solution is better organization. Although this is not individually notable, the pattern of bombings that have occurred in Lahore is notable, and should be tracked in a single page. Sad to say, suicide bomb attacks and mass killings have been taking place in Lahore frequently, once a month or more in 2010 [1], 2009 [2], and on back. Ideally, there should be an up-to-date, well-sourced and informative repository for this ongoing series of terrorist attacks on civilians in Lahore, Baghdad, and other places. Without somewhere to place that information, people contribute individual articles about events as they happen-- in this case, a bombing, but we've seen the same with earth tremors and airplane incidents, each one with the myopic perspective that it's never happened before. There are some that stand out from the pattern of misery, such as May 2010 attacks on Ahmadi mosques in Lahore. For the most part, however, events of this nature are part of a series of tragedies. Without a framework, it comes down to an "all or nothing" choice for individual events, and usually ends up as the latter. Mandsford 23:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Proposal I completely agree. Any suggestion for such a page. I'm having difficultly finding one as this isn't really a campaign by just one group or in one area (such as the Waziristan problems) so the scope is a bit difficult to determine. Plus Bombings and terror attacks in Pakistan in the 2000s and 2010s doesn't sound all that great so we need someone to have a better idea for a name. If we do find a better name we should link it at other pages such as 2010 in Pakistan to pre-empt the creation of further news-type articles. Travelbird (talk) 11:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Agree with the above commentors. At this point its best that some sort of list be created so that the important data have some sort of home here on Wikipedia.--brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:47, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Proposal I completely agree. Any suggestion for such a page. I'm having difficultly finding one as this isn't really a campaign by just one group or in one area (such as the Waziristan problems) so the scope is a bit difficult to determine. Plus Bombings and terror attacks in Pakistan in the 2000s and 2010s doesn't sound all that great so we need someone to have a better idea for a name. If we do find a better name we should link it at other pages such as 2010 in Pakistan to pre-empt the creation of further news-type articles. Travelbird (talk) 11:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete relatively minor attack. usable info should be preserved in List of terrorist incidents in Pakistan since 2001--Wikireader41 (talk) 18:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, per above comments. This incident is already covered in List of terrorist incidents in Pakistan since 2001 better than it is here. There's nothing to merge; if some scholars in the future explore all of these attacks in depth, than notable incidents can be split off from the list article. -LtNOWIS (talk) 06:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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