The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 14:30, 10 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Irena Jordanova (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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The topic does not meet WP:NAUTHOR, WP:ANYBIO or WP:GNG criteria. See source analysis table.

Source assessment table

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
"Нова книга: "Послушен брод што плови" на Јорданова – Вечер". www.vecer.press. Archived from the original on 2018-07-25.	~ Slavica Gadzova Sviderska is quoted as the editorial reviewer, her commentary is not independent work of literary criticism and could simply be the blurb	~ contains promotional statements including: "one of the most downloaded novels on Amazon" which is, of course, ridiculous	WP:ROUTINE book announcement	✘ No
Макфакс (2018-07-20). "Објавен третиот роман на Ирена Јорданова". МАКФАКС (in Macedonian). Archived from the original on 2020-02-03. Retrieved 2023-03-10.	~ same as previous, with a longer quote of the non-independent, editorial, review	~ same as previous, with extended promotional content	WP:ROUTINE book announcement	✘ No
"Irena Jordanova". Blesok Cultural Institution. Archived from the original on 2012-04-25. "Irena Jordanova". Blesok Cultural Institution (in Macedonian). Retrieved 3 March 2024.	~ The subject's story was published in the blesok.mk publication, leading to her short profile being included on the organization's website	the biographical summary was probably supplied by the subject	short author biography on a publisher's website is not significant coverage	✘ No
Utrinski Vesnik Archived 2012-03-26 at the Wayback Machine - Novel of the Year Award, 2008 Archived 2011-07-22 at the Wayback Machine	this is the publication Utrinski vesnik writing about the literary award given by Utrinski vesnik; moreover Irena Jordanova was an employee for Utrinski vesnik as a journalist at some point[1]	~ there are some pretty vapid statements here that don't resemble serious literary criticism ("Irena Jordanova heralds the arrival of a top-notch writer of literary prose in Macedonian literature, who will not be somewhere between one and the other, but will be among the best")	these are two articles about the same award, and Jordanova or her book are not discussed in any depth or specificity; note that Jordanova is mentioned as a competition entrant and did not win the award	✘ No
"The International Association of the Biennial of Young Artists from Europe". Archived from the original on 2011-08-24. Retrieved 2011-04-15.	profile of a participant at a literary event on that event's website; the book description was probably provided by the subject or the domestic organizers who selected her for participation in the international event	the unsigned description of the book can not be seen as a credible critique	a directory entry with a short book description	✘ No
https://iliili.com.mk/knigi/katalizator-33/	bood ad on the publisher's website	~ promotional content, but the statement that the English-language version is self-published is credible		✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

WP:BEFORE does not reveal any further usable sources.

• It may be of interest to participants (but should not be seen as determinative with respect to deleting or keeping, and is not the movativator behind this AfD) that this article owes its existence to an old Macedonian book promotion initiative which was recently discussed at ANI.

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Literature, and North Macedonia. —Alalch E. 14:34, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Per source analysis above. Nothing useful in google search or gnews either. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 16:36, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 16:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: I find one interview for this person; otherwise the source analysis table shows none are valid sourcing. Delete for not meeting AUTHOR. Happy to reconsider if some book reviews or stories about the author in the native language. Oaktree b (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. As I mentioned earlier on the talk page, three novels suggests that WP:NAUTHOR is a possible notability claim. But I can't find evidence for it. Ordinarily I would hesitate to call for deletion since I don't read Macedonian and am unfamiliar with the media architecture there - but given the ANI incident Alalch E. mentions, I think if there were other reviews, the promotors responsible for these articles would have linked them. So I'm inclined to believe they don't exist. -- asilvering (talk) 21:39, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  That's a new one... We ask for sources, they get some "published" and immediately use them for notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @Oaktree b Unfortunately it seems they may have been at it for some time, so if you find any Macedonian writers with suspiciously timed reviews in the references, they might be worth a deeper look. -- asilvering (talk) 17:29, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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