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The result was delete‎. Beeblebrox ^Beebletalks 23:39, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Husam Zaman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This person does not meet WP:ACADEMIC, for being a university president! Sabirkir (talk) 19:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Academics and educators, and Saudi Arabia. Sabirkir (talk) 19:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Less than 200 cites in GS fails WP:Prof#C1. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:45, 8 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]
• Weak keep. There has been some recent talk about college presidents being notable if they pass WP:SIGCOV, even if they're not notable as scholars. Can we get some consensus? Bearian (talk) 03:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Of course they can be notable if they pass some other criterion, but it has to be shown that they do. I do not see it here. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:05, 11 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

• Keep It would be better for creator to introduce the subject as the ″university president″, not just an ″academic″. The subject seems to satisfy WP:NPROF#C6 based on serving as a president or chairman of universities. I believe the stated reason for nomination is inaccurate: This person does not meet WP:ACADEMIC, for being a university president!. WP:NPROF#C6 specifically addresses this matter. Additionally, his role as president of a governmental organization (ETEC) in field of education could be considered him as a politician. Also, the article mentions local/national awards received by the subject, and other Arabic sources may be consulted to pass other criterion for notability. Gedaali (talk) 14:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. According to https://seu.edu.sa/gs/en/admission/, the Saudi Electronic University offers bachelors and masters degrees only, and therefore cannot be construed as satisfying C6 of WP:NPROF. Taif University might qualify at first glance but the cited sources list him as a "Director" and the Wikipedia page says that the highest level official is "President." Being an appointed member of an evaluation board does not connect to any of the WP:NPROF criteria. I cannot tell from the citations for the awards whether they are notable enough for WP:NPROF; if I became convinced of that I could change my recommendation to "Keep" but right now all I see is a page about a career administrator. Qflib (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Beeblebrox ^Beebletalks 22:58, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. SEU is not a major academic institution for the purposes of C6—just 2700 papers total across all time periods and fields indexed by Scopus, and its affiliation with for-profit scam schools in the US like Walden is very suspect—and the awards are nowhere near significant enough for other NPROF criteria. The sources also say his appointment was not "president" but rather "general supervisor" of the SEU branch in Medina, quite a different position. JoelleJay (talk) 00:42, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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