Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Helene Pellicano
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:36, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:NTENNIS. Shrug02 (talk) 23:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Women, Tennis, and Malta. Shrug02 (talk) 23:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
- Keep meets GNG thanks to coverage in major Malta sources such as [1] [2] [3] [4] (Times of Malta) and [5] (Malta Independent). Iffy★Chat -- 10:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Iffy the coverage in Times of Malta is pretty solid, but they all count as 1 source only per WP:GNG ("Multiple publications from the same author or organization"). Malta Independent's ref is just a match report and is not a significant coverage of Pellicano. I'll see if I can find something more. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 19:06, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Just Step Sideways from this world ..... today 23:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep it provides verifiable information about a notable figure in the opera world, with sources documenting her career as a renowned conductor and her recognition within the field. --Loewstisch (talk) 13:16, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Loewstisch This is a biography of a Maltese tennis player. I think you've commented on the wrong AFD. Shrug02 (talk) 14:34, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I disagree with the keep vote. This article fails WP:GNG guidelines as it pertains to a regional athlete with moderate success. I vote delete and agree with the nomination. Go4thProsper (talk) 01:31, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Took upon myself to search for sources to add to my comment at the start of this AfD...and I couldn't find anything besides passing mentions, routine match reports or databases. Fails both WP:NTENNIS and WP:GNG (Times of Malta's coverage isn't alone enough per the guideline itself). Jovanmilic97 (talk) 09:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Hmmm. This is Malta's highest ranked player and there are several sources that seem to back up her importance there. There is Malta Today's article on her becoming the first Maltese tennis player to win the junior European championship. The Malta Tennis Federation did an article of her. And it's pretty significant when you read a guide on what to do in Malta that her name pops up in an article there too. This is not the US where if something happens 8000 articles get written, but it seems she's a big deal there. Fyunck(click) (talk) 09:43, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), Malta's highest ranked player (and by far) is actually Francesca Curmi. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- At the time (2019), she was Malta's highest ranked player ever. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note that the Malta Tennis Federation is not independent of the subject. JTtheOG (talk) 22:38, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- They don't own her. Tennis Magazine isn't independent of the subject matter either yet we use it. Is it as strong as a NY Times article... certainly not. But as adults I'm certain we can give it the proper weight. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:42, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Fyunck(click), Malta's highest ranked player (and by far) is actually Francesca Curmi. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 20:51, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Sufficient sources have been provided to demonstrate the subject passes WP:SPORTSBASIC.4meter4 (talk) 20:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
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