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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Grace Ihejiamaizu

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The result was delete. ‑Scottywong| [soliloquize] || 00:22, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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No evidence of any notability. Plenty of self-promotional refs. US awards are non-notable. No independent and reliable sources. Fails WP:GNG  Velella  Velella Talk   16:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  Velella  Velella Talk   16:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Velella  Velella Talk   16:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletion discussions.  Velella  Velella Talk   16:59, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Spiderone 18:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Err, could somebody explain which references from this article are supposed to be unreliable and why? The references regarding the U.S. State Department awards [1][2] seem to be both reliable and independent to me. Nsk92 (talk) 18:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Nsk92, Err, Correct me if I’m wrong but I think the onus is on the article creator to explain what & what sources are reliable not on us. Celestina007 (talk) 20:42, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Correcting you: you are in fact wrong. You and the nominator are the ones arguing for deletion and claiming that some sources are unreliable and non-independent. You need to back up these claims, since you made them. Otherwise they are just unjustified assertions, carrying no weight. I repeat, what is the problem with independence and reliability of sources like [3][4]? Nsk92 (talk) 20:58, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Both of these sources reference the US department of state alumni membership. According to this this is open to all "past and current participants of U.S. government-funded and U.S. government-facilitated exchange programs ....." - so not by any means exclusive or contributing in any way to notability.  Velella  Velella Talk  
I am not saying it's a Nobel Prize or anything of the sort, but the U.S. State Department profile of the subject [5] is a reliable independent source providing specific and detailed coverage, and in this way it does contribute to notability per WP:GNG and WP:BIO. Plus the phrase "is open to all past and present ..." refers to eligibility. They still conduct a selective process for choosing the recipients of these awards and don't simply pick them randomly. Nsk92 (talk) 12:29, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Barkeep49 (talk) 01:30, 15 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete She is not notable for anything ,except, possibly, for self-promotion. I see no evidence in the article or the sources that she is in any sense notable as a social entrepreneur, even assuming that someone could become notable as a social entrepreneur, or that it's a meaningful designation. It's one of the red-flag terms -- when I see it on New Pages or as a draft, I assume it's non-encyclopedic promotionalism , unless proven otherwise. All of the awards are promotional or trivial, as would be expected. All of the press was either written either directly or indirectly by her pr staff. The original ed. was blocked for sockpuppettry; it's been cleaned up by a reliable editor, mainly by removing the worst of the references, but there's nothing encyclopedic actually there. DGG ( talk ) 06:58, 16 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Scope creep: To unpack what it means to be 'a member of the World Economic Forum' take a look at the page about her on the WEF site and ignore the bio that she's no doubt written herself and focus on what the WEF say she is: a 'global shaper' from the Calabar Hub. The Global Shapers website explains that 'the Global Shapers Community is a non-profit organization registered in Geneva, Switzerland and housed at the World Economic Forum'. The WEF provides funding for its operations. However the key thing that the page tells us is that there are over 13,000 such global shapers - young people thinking globally but acting locally - so it is hardly an exclusive honour, and being a global shaper would not make someone notable. Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 09:20, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Curb Safe Charmer: Yip, your right and good chunk of them are on here, with articles. Prior consensus has found that several of them, which I took to Afd or participated in, were notable, and I don't see any reason why this person is not notable either. I think there is perhaps a level of detail for want of a better word, that folk on here don't understand or perhaps don't experience. I don't have experience of either to be honest, so I had to do the work in the previous Afd's. Put simply, for somebody who is very young to achieve that level in the 3rd sector, sufficient to gain notice of an international organisation, entry into the WEF and then to achieve a Mandela fellowship, taking her from Nigeria to the US is sufficient to achieve notability. It is almost an entirely unique experience for one so young. There is probably couple of hundred folk in the world that achieve that level at that age, every year. scope_creepTalk 16:48, 27 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
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