The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. PeterSymonds (talk) 19:53, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fearless (Taylor Swift album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

WP:CRYSTAL. Insufficient info for a full page; no track listing or cover art, just a few rumors and otherwise unsourced info. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 21:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 21:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete until more sources and cover art can be found. --Caldorwards4 (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep This article has some potential, plus the album is not that far into the future. Ndenison ^talk 21:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep There's an incomplete tracks list in the USA Today article, and a reasonably confident-appearing date for release (which, incidentally, is also reflected in the news section of Ms. Swift's official website). Townlake (talk) 21:47, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep-Per WP:MUSIC#Albums --Individual articles on albums should include independent coverage. Demos, mixtapes, bootlegs, promo-only, and unreleased albums are in general not notable; however, they may be notable if they have significant independent coverage in reliable sources. and this articles has independent coverage in reliable sources.--S_RX 22:14, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: perhaps this could be merged with Taylor Swift until the release date and track list are fully confirmed by the label, per WP:MUSIC. Cliff smith ^talk 23:20, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Release date and partial track list from the label. Yeah the album is three months out, so there's still wiggle room on the last tracks... but one track is already in heavy promotional use for the Olympics, and they're starting to "sell" the album on August 22. Seems to me there's enough coverage at this point to justify a separate article. Townlake (talk) 23:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ah, good link, thanks. Here's another. I still think merging might be best until the whole track list is confirmed, though. Cliff smith ^talk 00:10, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • My respectful disagreement comes from the fact the album is already getting significant press coverage such that Wikipedia's fundamental RS requirements are met despite the album's future release date. The album's sales timetable and unusual marketing plan have generated an unusual amount of press, for example see here (E Online via Yahoo), here (UPI), non-trivial discussion of the album in the second half of this interview (Tennessean). We don't have cover art yet because part of the marketing gimmick involves using fan photos for the cover art. Townlake (talk) 19:12, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge back into Taylor Swift article until such time as full, referenced track listing, art work and such are known.  Esradekan Gibb  ^"Talk" 03:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - future album with no tracklisting --T-rex 04:25, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - the album doesn't have much info yet... should wait until more info to make the article CloversMallRat (talk) 17:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Yes it is a future album, but there have been a number of reliable, independent articles about the album and its upcoming release. Plus, I have concerns that a vote to delete may set a precedent, whereby future albums with significant mainstream coverage may be deleted just because they are future albums. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 12:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)]][reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.