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The result was redirect to Cambridge (UK Parliament constituency). Shimeru (talk) 13:50, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Daniel Zeichner (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log • AfD statistics)

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Non notable candidate as per WP:POLITICIAN, redirect to Cambridge (UK Parliament constituency) as per WP:POLITICIAN. Wintonian (talk) 00:08, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Wereon (talk) 00:41, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete because Mr Zeichner at this stage (unless he wins the upcoming General Election) he isn't actually all that notable. From what I can gather, being a candidate for a national office doesn't qualify one for notability unless one already holds (or wins) that office. Severe Punishment (talk) 09:20, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete, possibly userify if anyone wants it. This looks like a prime example of someone who might become a notable back bencher with that past fondness for nazi salute stunts, but he's not there yet. Following the Labour landslide next month he might be in. Or else, maybe not. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep (declaring interest). Guidelines for politicians say that notability can allow articles on "People who have held .... first-level sub-national political office, including members of a legislature." As chairman of the Labour Party for a first level sub-national area, namely the East of England, I suggest Zeichner is notable. MikeHobday (talk) 10:28, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As I read the guideline, that only applies to democratically elected posts, not party apparatchiks. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. Mike, I think we've discussed this before in a similar AfD, and the same conclusion was reached. Wereon (talk) 12:24, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, we discussed it on the Daniel Zeichner talk page, and didn't reach a conclusion. Let's hope we do now. But I see that WP:Politician has changed since the discussion, and the new rules are more restrictive. MikeHobday (talk) 16:54, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's right, so we did. Mea culpa. Seems an awfully long time ago now... Wereon (talk) 01:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect per nom. The sub-national level thing was meant for elected posts like governors of American states, Canadian provinces, etc, not local party bosses. Ray^Talk 22:12, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to constituency per recent convention. NN until elected. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:18, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.