Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cecilie Struck
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The result was no consensus. Seraphimblade Talk to me 19:46, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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BLP, fails GNG and BIO. Sources in article are three interviews, nothing from IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and in-depth. BEFORE showed stats and promo. WP:BLP states "Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources"'; BLPs need IS RS with SIGCOV addressing the subject directly and indepth for both content and notability per well known core policy (WP:V and WP:BLP) and guidelines (WP:BIO and WP:IS, WP:RS, WP:SIGCOV). // Timothy :: talk 02:39, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:35, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. Complicated by the player's professional name (Sille Struck per La Liga) being different from the article title. I'm finding a few more sources under Sille but don't have time to investigate further today. -Socccc (talk) 18:58, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. Sources found when searching for Sille Struck: paywalled 14 August 2021 profile about the Rayo Vallecano transfer, 27 April 2021 Danish-language podcast interview with Struck on the transfer, blog covering her earlier transfer to top-flight Odense Q. Fyens.dk seems to have more articles (goal for Odense against Fortuna mentioned in an article in its 24 August 2017 print edition), but print archives, and even searching the website past a certain date, are paywalled. -Socccc (talk) 02:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep. Would love to raise the 14 Aug 2021 Viborg Stifts Folkeblad article to WP:RX since the article description poses it as a retrospective of her first year at Rayo, which would suit IS, RS, and SIGCOV if true. But that's only a guess, which probably isn't enough. The coverage of her transfer could warrant a mention on FC Thy-Thisted Q and a redirect, but it isn't enough for SIGCOV IMO. Strange for a player to have 80+, maybe 100+ caps in top-division leagues over 5+ years. and have been a paid international transfer into Liga F, but still lack RS/IS/SIGCOV. -Socccc (talk) 15:41, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. The article has more than enough adequate third person sources. Dwanyewest (talk) 22:48, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. Sources found when searching for Sille Struck: paywalled 14 August 2021 profile about the Rayo Vallecano transfer, 27 April 2021 Danish-language podcast interview with Struck on the transfer, blog covering her earlier transfer to top-flight Odense Q. Fyens.dk seems to have more articles (goal for Odense against Fortuna mentioned in an article in its 24 August 2017 print edition), but print archives, and even searching the website past a certain date, are paywalled. -Socccc (talk) 02:49, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep - @GiantSnowman:, Per above. Young player with ongoing professional career abroad in Spanish Liga F, which receives decent amount of media coverage. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 00:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
- not enough IMO. GiantSnowman 17:36, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete - I couldn't find any sources better than those linked by Socccc above. There is a brief 2020–21 season preview in what appears to be a WP:SPS, which wouldn't count towards notability. Her former club, Thy-Thisted Q issued a press release on the transfer to Rayo which was picked up by various Danish and Spanish language media sources, but it doesn't count towards notability since the source isn't independent. I couldn't find any Spanish-language coverage of her play for Rayo or Levante Las Planas; only match reports and transfer announcements. The Danish-language coverage is generally the same; match reports/previews and transfer announcements. I think this is a case of WP:TOOSOON as WP:GNG is not yet met. Jogurney (talk) 13:53, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
- While I'm not changing my vote, I agree with all of these points. If she's mostly notable for the fact that she was sold to Liga F and this results in deletion, then preserve at least that much in FC Thy-Thisted Q and consider redirecting there. The 2021 Viborg Folkeblad paywalled story and Fyens Stiftstidende's archives are the only factors tipping me over to Keep; inaccessible and paywalled coverage is still coverage, but ultimately someone with access has to verify that the coverage is significant, so it's a chicken and an egg between a rock and a hard place. Not sure if draftification is an alternative until someone can access the paywalled sources to confirm. -Socccc (talk) 00:32, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 09:55, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Keep With the references provided already, I think is just about scrapes by on GNG. Looking in Proquest, there's more; Viborg Folkeblad has stuff on her for years, with articles like ProQuest 1528377756 from 2014, long before her Liga F play. Nfitz (talk) 16:13, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, signed, Rosguill talk 16:28, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
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