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Redirect to Andrew Tate#Political party launch. There are only two reliable sources for this, both of which are reporting on the launch announcement, neither of which appear particularly significant either.[1][2] So per WP:EVENTCRIT, this does not amount to widespread coverage nor a diversity of sources. This also comes under WP:INHERITORG, given that the only coverage is due to Andrew Tate's announcement, as well as the subsequent reaction. I've otherwise stated my opinion on the two sources here, and after an extensive search only found a satirical site and other unreliable sources. The London Economic is the only other source that could be deemed reliable imo, but still the coverage is only based on one event, and is far from in-depth to be considered WP:SIGCOV. CNC (talk) 14:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Organizations, Politics, and United Kingdom. CNC (talk) 14:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Draftfy per WP:TOOSOON and too soon to delete. There is the possibility the party will feature candidates and win some seat(s) which will then qualify it for WP:NPOL. Redirecting to the founder's page leaves no room for the article's further development should it gradually become notable. Mekomo (talk) 14:55, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Draftify would mean that readers do not reach the content they are looking for, which is summarised at Tate's page. I'm not opposed to redirect and draftifying, so that editors can work on improving a draft. CNC (talk) 15:01, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect or just delete - we don't have WP:CRYSTALBALLs and the subject doesn't currently meet WP:GNG as per nomination. Orange sticker (talk) 15:02, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect per nom. This is much WP:TOOSOON. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 15:05, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect Only when it will be official, the article can be reinstated. For now it seems pretty vague if it will actually come into existance and be in elections. DerEchteJoan (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Andrew Tate#Political party launch. I agree that this article may be WP:TOOSOON, but draftifying alone will mean users cannot find it. I think that redirecting and draftifying is the best solution.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect There doesn't seem to be any party organisation yet, and there is essentially no coverage of it separate from that of Tate. This is definitely not ready for an article. Gust Justice (talk) 18:15, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. There's tons of reliable sources now that mention the party HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 19:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If there are tons, can you name any for us? CNC (talk) 19:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CommunityNotesContributor Daily Star https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/andrew-tates-new-bruv-party-34436430 Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com/andrew-tate-musks-campaign-against-sex-trafficking-culminates-in-him-backing-alleged-sex-trafficker/ and Times of India https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/hes-not-wrong-elon-musk-backs-alleged-sex-trafficker-andrew-tates-bid-for-uk-prime-minister/articleshow/117033961.cms and more articles are probably being written right now. I know you might not like Tate, but one of the biggest social media influencers, one of the most googled men in the planet a few years ago, launching a party to try and get into politics is notable. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:40, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Daily Beast is not SIGCOV. TOI doesn't discuss the subject. WP:DAILYSTAR is unreliable. CNC (talk) 20:42, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.joe.co.uk/news/andrew-tate-mocked-after-launching-bruv-party-in-hopes-of-becoming-uk-prime-minister-470457 https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/andrew-tates-uk-election-bid-hits-a-snag-his-party-bruv-gets-suspended-on-x/3709440/ HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 20:50, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See nomination. CNC (talk) 20:54, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/andrew-tate-s-new-political-party-is-called-exactly-what-you-d-expect/ar-AA1x6nfX?ocid=ob-fb-frca-1617134617825 HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 22:59, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draftily until there are third party sources Braganza (talk) 19:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect no need for a seperate page - agreed with nom. ResonantDis_tortion 20:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep there's also an Independent article (https://www.indy100.com/politics/andrew-tate-bruv-party-twitter). Still quite marginal and I don't strongly oppose redirecting until it can be fleshed out more, but there's sufficient coverage that an article is probably inevitable sooner or later. Chessrat ^{(talk, contributions)} 00:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Chessrat exactly! There's more and more articles being written, enough reliable sources already too. Andrew Tate getting into politics can't be ignored, no matter how much wiki editors disagree with his political statements. And even if there wasn't enough reliable sources yet, in less than 2 days there's gonna be even more articles. HumansRightsIsCool (talk) 00:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Hadn't noticed Indy100 was owned by Independent, lending to it's credibility as a reliable source. I'm still not seeing coverage going beyond a single event for the subject to be considered notable however. When we total the reliable sources; two of them are in the niche of culture and entertainment (Joe and Indy100), only one of them would be considered a traditional WP:NEWSORG (Financial Express). If the subject were notable, you'd have reporting from newsorgs that are reliable for political coverage; instead there is predominantly tabloid coverage, because so far this stunt appears to be nothing more than entertainment (per The Anome). CNC (talk) 11:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Andrew Tate#Political party launch: per nom. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 03:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Andrew Tate#Political party launch. No evidence that this is anything other than a PR stunt. Doing this does not preclude creating an independent article if this ever becomes a real political party at some later date. — The Anome (talk) 10:21, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Tate denies the assumptions of it only bring a PR stunt

  https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/andrew-tates-uk-election-bid-hits-a-snag-his-party-bruv-gets-suspended-on-x/3709440/ Durranistan (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  "Well he would, wouldn't he?" — The Anome (talk) 18:09, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  WP:MANDY is evergreen - ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:27, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BRUV is just a political stunt and image white washing. Delete this article. NAUser0001 (talk) 11:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect – The organisation itself has to be notable and covered in-depth to warrant an article. The act of Tate creating it is not notable in itself; it's notable because of who Tate is, which merely warrants it being on his article. Yue🌙 09:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect or Delete The organisation isn't even registered as a party (in the UK). Limited reliable sources for the organisation. At the moment, as it's not a party and limited WP:RS, redirect is probably the best option here. Knitsey (talk) 14:19, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• For now Redirect to Andrew Tate#Political party launch. I think it is too early to create a page about this party. It is not legally formed in any way and has not yet participated in any elections. But I support the creation of an article about this party if it is registered and has at least some success in the elections. Until this happens, this page should be a redirect.  PLATEL  (talk) 12:44, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect or Delete The article has changed from suggesting it as a self-proclaimed party to a proposal of a new political party. Wikipedia:CRYSTAL It is nothing more than a prediction that this party will exist. The only purpose of the page now is to advertise a non-existent party, which could potentially be a gimmick for attention.

Journalist Matt Shea, who has made documentaries about Tate for the BBC, reckons there are ulterior motives behind Tate’s Prime Ministerial bid. “He's one of the most successful people at monetizing attention. And increasingly, how you gain attention is by being controversial, because that is what the algorithms prefer,” Shea says. “This is likely a stunt in order to pump the value of one or more crypto products that he holds.” https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/andrew-tate-bruv-political-party-prime-minister-manifesto-b1204092.html

Could also refer to the decision made to delete the page for Birthday Party, a 'political party' created by Kanye West Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birthday Party (U.S. political party) Jeremy Hulber (talk) 19:37, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]