Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alpha Jallow
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The result was delete. ✗plicit 02:34, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Article fails notability for sport with lists and databases cited. Article is created by an SPA; suspected this fellow is actually the author of the article. Whiteguru (talk) 02:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Sportspeople, Football, and Africa. Whiteguru (talk) 02:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I personally created this article on behalf of my player Alpha Jallow. I basically used Alphaj97 to create his article because I have many players which am managing and I cannot remember every username. Centric Sports Management is my agency name. Here is the link of my agency name on Transfermarket including all the players I am managing and Alpha Jallow is among them; https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/centric-sports-management/beraterfirma/berater/7062 Alphaj97 (talk) 02:28, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- You will need to make a formal declaration of this. Instructions have been left on your talk page. You are also required to disclose any other accounts that you are operating per WP:SOCK. Please do not carry on editing until this has been done. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. I would never violate Wikipedia policy. I voluntary created this article and I do not hold or operating under any other accounts apart from Alphaj97, email: socceragentuk@gmail.com Alphaj97 (talk) 11:16, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This completely contradicts your post just above where you say and I quote "my player Alpha Jallow" and "I basically used Alphaj97 to create his article because I have many players which am managing and I cannot remember every username." In the second sentence you admit to using more than one account and you admit to managing this player. This is a conflict of interest per WP:COI and you absolutely need to declare this. Repeated failure to do so will lead to you losing your editing privileges. You are employed by Centric Sports Management and so have a clear conflict of interest here. I will send you another warning on your talk page. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 12:07, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I am not being directly or indirectly compensated for my edits. I would never violate Wikipedia policy. I voluntary created this article and I do not hold or operating under any other accounts apart from Alphaj97, email: socceragentuk@gmail.com Alphaj97 (talk) 11:16, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- You will need to make a formal declaration of this. Instructions have been left on your talk page. You are also required to disclose any other accounts that you are operating per WP:SOCK. Please do not carry on editing until this has been done. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 08:31, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 11:59, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- He is not like Samuel Eto'o or Drogba because he has not play for Barcelona or Chelsea but believe me where he came from he is notable. He is on FIFA TMS because he is professional. Every young talent professional need a chance to be seen on Wikipedia if the sources are verifiable. He's case all the sources on the page are verifiable. I am not here to attack anyone but before going ahead and propose for a deletion, you should how these young talent professionals are working so hard to fulfil their dreams in the higher level. Alphaj97 (talk) 12:18, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 12:14, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- seven sources lacks significant coverage? Are you serious? Just because you don't know or have not heard the name of the subject does not mean you have to be judgemental. Alphaj97 (talk) 12:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Alphaj97 My prior knowledge of the player is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is if it can be shown that the player has multiple sources of significant coverage over a sufficiently significant period of time. Database links like these[1][2][3][4] do not go towards GNG per WP:NOTDATABASE. Of the other three, none is WP:SIGCOV as they don't address the subject in much detail, they just state that he was signed and then fired 24 hours later. Even if those where significant sources, they are all from July 2019 which is not WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is the point. I am an Intermediary Football Agent based in the United Kingdom, I worked with several many players mainly from Africa and Asia. I have been following this subject since 2015 on his journey. He is listed on Wikipedia under "Foreign players played in India" scrol down to "Gambia"and you see his name under the club name "Prayag United SC".
- However, one of the reason I created this article for the subject is because Wikipedia have not created one for him back then when he was eligible for it. In 2020 the subject got an injury (knee fracture). He is still recovering from that trauma was unable to compete for two years. I suggest you know these people and what their going through before making judgments. Alphaj97 (talk) 12:52, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Alphaj97 My opinion and !vote is purely based on the lack of significant coverage about this individual. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information nore is it a place to right great wrongs so while it is sad to hear about his injuries, they don't have any bearings on this discussions. Alvaldi (talk) 13:17, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- His injury do not have any bearings on this discussion I know that. I mentioned it, so you know his conditions before blindly voting for deletion. All the sources provided here are verifiable and legit. I do not understand why people are so bias. I rest my case. Alphaj97 (talk) 13:26, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Alphaj97 My opinion and !vote is purely based on the lack of significant coverage about this individual. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information nore is it a place to right great wrongs so while it is sad to hear about his injuries, they don't have any bearings on this discussions. Alvaldi (talk) 13:17, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Alphaj97 My prior knowledge of the player is irrelevant, the only thing that matters is if it can be shown that the player has multiple sources of significant coverage over a sufficiently significant period of time. Database links like these[1][2][3][4] do not go towards GNG per WP:NOTDATABASE. Of the other three, none is WP:SIGCOV as they don't address the subject in much detail, they just state that he was signed and then fired 24 hours later. Even if those where significant sources, they are all from July 2019 which is not WP:SUSTAINED coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 12:42, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- seven sources lacks significant coverage? Are you serious? Just because you don't know or have not heard the name of the subject does not mean you have to be judgemental. Alphaj97 (talk) 12:29, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete THe sources cited are entirely insufficient to demonstrate notability according to Wikipedia criteria. AndyTheGrump (talk) 13:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I have work in football industry for the past 19 years but I have never seen this type of temperament from public. I often came across with a lot of wikipedia pages with only one or two sources outdated and they have never been deleted. Is it because the subject "Alpha Jallow" does not have an updated sources which makes him ineligible for wikipedia page? It is unfair judgement.
- Simply because their not notable in your eyes does not mean where they came from they are not. As an African player abroad, everybody in your native country and environment probably have heard about about you. Is very sad to see this judgements. Alphaj97 (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This isn't complicated. To qualify for an article, it needs to be demonstrated that the subject (Jarrow in this case) has had significant coverage in independent sources. 'Significant' as understood from the relevant policies, as interpreted by contributors with experience of how they apply. Not 'significant' because someone connected with the subject says it isn't fair otherwise. Not 'significant' because someone connected with the subject makes unverifiable claims about 'everybody' knows. This is an entirely routine procedure on Wikipedia. People with conflicts of interest routinely get their attempts at promotion deleted. If you have contributed to Wikipedia before, but have yet to become aware of this, that is unfortunate, but that is how it works. I suggest you stop badgering people here, and let the discussion run its course. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:30, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per source analysis below, fails WP:GNG, WP:NBASIC. Not even a case of WP:ONEEVENT as the one event itself that provided routine coverage (him signing for an amateur Turkish club then being swiftly dismissed) is not notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:08, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
Source | Independent? | Reliable? | Significant coverage? | Count source toward GNG? |
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Stats page, no coverage | ✘ No | |||
Stats | ✘ No | |||
Stats | ✘ No | |||
Not significant. We know that he signed for the club then was dismissed. We know that he is Gambian. No other info about the player is discussed. | ✘ No | |||
Little coverage. Talks a bit about Lamin Jallow but not much depth about Alpha | ✘ No | |||
Routine transfer announcement | ✘ No | |||
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- The subject only had three years of his career from 2016-2019. He has a brighter future ahead of him, to achieve his dreams. Injury is every athlete's nightmare. I would continue to help him achieve his dream with or without wikipedia page. As soon as he recovers he will get back to the pitch.
- You are the wikipedia administrator, whatever you decide I will take it in good faith but I will suggest keeping his page until he gets back on his feet. Thank you! Alphaj97 (talk) 14:36, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your claim to future notability is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. If he does indeed carve a successful career later on, then the article can be created again. We shouldn't create articles on the off chance that they might be notable in the future. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- This is not written on off chance basis. He is indeed notable. Alphaj97 (talk) 15:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Your claim to future notability is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. If he does indeed carve a successful career later on, then the article can be created again. We shouldn't create articles on the off chance that they might be notable in the future. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 14:46, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete Fails WP:GNG at the moment as there is no significant references to his career so far. If as above he comes back from his injury and gets significant coverage then article can always be recreated then but as it stands now, it fails.— NZFC(talk)(cont) 22:06, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- I wonder why so much hate in here. SMH Alphaj97 (talk) 22:33, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
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