Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Akiko Hasegawa
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The result was keep. – Joe (talk) 14:04, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
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Might be WP:TOOSOON to keep around. She does voice a major character in The Idolmaster, but her other roles in Fantasista Doll and Ro-Kyu-Bu! are supporting. Same with Phantom Breaker video game. JA Wiki is more developed but would still need sourcing. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:30, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
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- Delete Does not meet notability criteria. I still think we need to make sure we do not interpret voice actor notability on the same level as live actor notability. Voicing is only part of a character, so there is probably a higher threshold for notability than for other actors.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:52, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- Why wouldn't it be the same level as live actor notability? They have levels of star billing and supporting/recurring/guest on those shows. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:25, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Article is just a directory of credits, only three of which have articles, and does not establish subject notability. sixtynine • whaddya want? • 23:21, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
- They do have articles, they're just not linked to. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:28, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- Weak keep - Although not much, I found some Japanese coverage specifically about her, including this, this Oricon article, another Oricon article, and this. Most of these articles tend to be more about her than the character of Miki Hoshii. Although she appears to have too few roles to unambiguously pass WP:ENT (Miki Hoshii appears to be her only main role so far), the coverage that exists for her in Japanese does appear to be enough to pass at the very least WP:GNG. If the consensus of this deletion nomination does not result in a Keep outcome, as an alternative, considering how popular the character of Miki Hoshii is (which I can attest to, even as someone who does not follow The Idolmaster very much), I would suggest a redirect to List of The Idolmaster characters#Miki Hoshii as an alternative to deletion. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 13:46, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Why has the specious argument "no major roles" morphed into "only one major role"? Stop moving the goalposts. Besides there are at least three major roles here. —Xezbeth (talk) 11:34, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
- What are those three roles? She has to be starring / main cast, not someone who is way low on the recurring list. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:49, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Why does she? You're just arbitrarily deciding whether a given role is "main" or not. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- No, I'm going by WP:ENT. Significant roles in significant productions. if she's not starring or main list in cast/staff, how is that a significant role? If she's one of 30 or 100 ensembled characters, how is that a significant role? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- I see her in the Fantasista Doll cast [1] but not in Ryo-Ku-Bu [2] AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 15:22, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- Why does she? You're just arbitrarily deciding whether a given role is "main" or not. —Xezbeth (talk) 07:15, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- As for goalposts, those are:WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. The WP:ENT should be considered Additional criteria for notability. Perhaps with those Oricon news articles, then she will meet WP:GNG but if she's going by cast lists and credits only then she should need to pass WP:ENT and would still be questionable for WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:34, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
- What are those three roles? She has to be starring / main cast, not someone who is way low on the recurring list. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:49, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep per Xezbeth, there's more than one significant role. Sro23 (talk) 05:40, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
- What is the second significant role? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:49, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 (c · m) 05:44, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, J947 (c · m) 05:44, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
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